Scottish Mag 3 Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 I knew I recognised that Harrison bloke from somewhere!! Anyone got the old Black & White videos? He was on one, with Philippe Albert helping him settle in the area as they were once team-mates at Charleroi. I actually think I have THAT video somewhere - it certainly rings a bell I still have all the Black and White videos but I don't have a video recorder to watch them on.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 9016 Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 Well, most annoying was the pronounciation of Kah-nut all the time. It's Knut you cnut. The documenary looked to me to be toned down due to legal reasons with the names at the beginning beeped/blanked out and some of the snippets that were in the news yesterday not being used. Still, some strong allegations. I just hope enough managers were really cooperating with the Lord Stevens inquiery so that together with BBC documentary it really will help to sort this rotten agent system out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad-on-the-cocks 0 Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 Two agents have claimed they made illegal payments to secure transfer deals with a former candidate for the England football manager's job. In an undercover BBC Panorama film, agent Teni Yerima says he bribed Bolton manager Sam Allardyce. Agent Peter Harrison says he paid Mr Allardyce's son to secure deals with Bolton and Craig Allardyce is filmed boasting about access to his father. Sam Allardyce told the BBC he has never taken or asked for or received a bung. He said he would not condone any breach of FA rules whatever personal affection he has for his son. Mr Allardyce was named as a possible replacement for the England manager Sven Goran Eriksson before the job was given to Steve McClaren. Panorama also uncovered that three different Bolton transfer signings involved secret payments from agents to Craig Allardyce, some when he was contractually banned from doing any Bolton deals. The club has admitted it knew nothing about the manager's son getting a cut of the money in these deals. In the secret filming Craig Allardyce told the undercover reporter: "I'll get the (player) profile and I'll walk straight into the office and sit down with me Dad. It's easy, it's easy." Craig Allardyce told the BBC that he had exaggerated his own importance to the undercover reporter in order to attract opportunities. He denied any wrongdoing in his Bolton deals or relationship with the club. The Portsmouth manager, Harry Redknapp, is secretly filmed discussing the possibility of buying the Blackburn captain Andy Todd, illegal under FA rules. At the meeting, Mr Redknapp tells agent Peter Harrison: "I like Toddy, don't I? No I'd take him. I would take him. I would take him without a doubt." But Mr Redknapp denies his conversation about Andy Todd with the agent Peter Harrison amounted to "tapping up". His assistant at Portsmouth at the time of the filming, Kevin Bond, is secretly recorded admitting he would consider discussing receiving payments from a proposed new agency involving Peter Harrison. Mr Bond also says he will discuss it with his then boss Harry Redknapp. Mr Redknapp told the BBC that he has never taken a bung and had given Kevin Bond no reason to think otherwise. When Mr Bond was told of the filming he said that he is not interested in receiving bungs and that no one he has ever worked with has taken a bung. The documentary also shows Chelsea's director of youth football, Frank Arnesen, secretly filmed making a illegal approach or "tapping up" Middlesbrough's England youth star 15-year-old Nathan Porritt. Last year, Chelsea were fined £500,000 by Premiership bosses, the Premier League, for "tapping up" Ashley Cole from rivals Arsenal. Chelsea have been warned they would be docked three Premiership points if they were ever caught at it again. Middlesbrough have confirmed that they did not give permission for the approach. Chelsea have denied that the filmed meeting broke any industry rules. In the programme, for the first time a former agent gives an on-camera interview about the corruption he says he has witnessed. Steven Noel-Hill said: "The game is corrupt. Bungs were the lubricant of deals. I would say that 80% of all deals have bungs attached to them." Three different licensed agents who are secretly filmed admit it is normal for some Premiership managers to take bungs. Charles Collymore - named publicly for the first time in the Panorama film by Luton Town manager Mike Newell as the agent who offered him an illegal payment - said to the undercover reporter: "There's managers out there who take bungs all day long. "I would say to you comfortably there's six to eight managers we could definitely approach and they'd be up for this no problem." When Mr Collymore was offered a right to reply to the filming he denied offering or accepting any bungs and says he gave the undercover reporter, UEFA-licensed coach Knut auf dem Berge, false information because he was suspicious of his agenda. Panorama also reveals that the Bolton chairman Phil Gartside - who is part of the Football Association board which helps police the game - misled his own fans. He complained in the press last August about an illegal approach to buy his captain Jay Jay Okocha and said he had asked Fifa to investigate. But Panorama finds out that eight days earlier he had been in a room with the agent Teni Yerima trying to sell Okocha. Mr Gartside has since told the BBC that he had not wanted to sell Okocha but could not ignore a generous offer for his player. Agent Peter Harrison has since denied that he is a corrupt agent and says that everything he said to the BBC's undercover reporter, Knut auf dem Berge, was merely pub gossip and banter. He says his payments to Craig Allardyce were legitimate. Agent Teni Yerima told the BBC that he made everything up as part of a plan to find out who Knut auf dem Berge was working for. In March, Lord Stevens, the former Metropolitan Police Commissioner, was appointed as head of a probe into alleged transfer bungs in the Premier League. He is looking at irregular payments in transfer deals made since 1 January 2004 and he is expected to publish his findings within weeks. http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/hi/uk/5360700.stm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6331 Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 Gotta love what those boys from .COM come out with sometimes..... Panorama: nowt new Tuesday evening's BBC TV investigation into alleged corruption in the Premiership may have lasted for an hour, but failed to capture on camera any firm evidence of so-called bungs. True, a few people were made to look greedy and greasy in equal measure, but stripping away all the hidden cameras and zoom graphics made those targeted seem little different from anyone who has ever accepted a Xmas bottle of booze or a buckshee seat in corporate hospitality as a result of the job they do. From our angle, the bottom line is this: If you accept that the whole concept of agents and the ludicrous amounts they openly receive is a joke anyway, then this was more footage of people with their snouts in the football trough and zero interest in the game. Sad, but hardly earth-shattering. How much tape ended up on the cutting room floor at the behest of lawyers is unclear, but from a Newcastle perspective at least, Kevin Bond seems to have little to worry about. We do agree with one or two of you that it was nice to see ex-mackem Sam Allardyce - who took a holier than thou attitude about the appointment of Glenn Roeder - come out smelling of something less fragrant than roses. He may have all his badges and qualifications but wasn't Roeder only missing the written qualification - the bit that includes how to deal with agents and conduct transfer dealings! England manager, my arse.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbyshinton 59 Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 So basically they went to watch a match at St. James'. That's all. Aye but they sat in the directors box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 Hope Allardyce gets done, the bloke loves himself. And Redknapp being dodgy is the worst kept secret in football. Doubt much will come of it though tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bombadil 0 Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 (edited) We do agree with one or two of you that it was nice to see ex-mackem Sam Allardyce - who took a holier than thou attitude about the appointment of Glenn Roeder - come out smelling of something less fragrant than roses. He may have all his badges and qualifications, but wasn't Roeder only missing the written qualification - the bit that includes how to deal with agents and conduct transfer dealings! England manager, my arse.... Looking at the way Roeder conducted his summer transfer dealings, it seems he could have really benefited from actually having the right badges and qualifications. No doubt he will be busy taking notes of Kuyt's performance tonight... Edited September 20, 2006 by Bombadil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 36104 Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 What was up with the bloke's button btw? How well hidden can a hidden camera be when it glows red? Might as well have given him a spinning bow tie with a camera in the centre tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 7166 Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 What was up with the bloke's button btw? How well hidden can a hidden camera be when it glows red? Might as well have given him a spinning bow tie with a camera in the centre tbh. He was on the radio last night, evidently he was sat facing a window and the sun caught the lense/shirt button just right to glow and reflect for a second - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut 9 Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 What could they have done though if they had spotted the camera? Taken him round the back, killed him, and thrown him in the river? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Maul 0 Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 What could they have done though if they had spotted the camera? Taken him round the back, killed him, and thrown him in the river? Given him a bribe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima 0 Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 (edited) From football365.com I'm shocked. Amazed. Even horrified. I can't believe anyone would want to sign Andy Todd... Andrew Jones, AVFC Edited September 20, 2006 by Sima Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3311 Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 (edited) It seems a they're all having a go at Panorama for dodgy editing. BBC could be in big bother on this one. Edited September 21, 2006 by Kevin Carr's Gloves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6331 Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 It seems a they're all having a go at Panorama for dodgy editing. BBC could be in big bother on this one. A Hutton Report-esque type fuck up?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetleftpeg 0 Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 Well, it looks like everyone is taking legal action against the BBC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6331 Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 Well, it looks like everyone is taking legal action against the BBC. That said, I guess that once the first one came forward and said they were going to take legal action, the others would have to follow suit or it would almost seem like an admission of guilt... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3311 Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 It seems a they're all having a go at Panorama for dodgy editing. BBC could be in big bother on this one. A Hutton Report-esque type fuck up?? Yes they can all cite past behaviour as evidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo 133 Posted August 14, 2007 Share Posted August 14, 2007 What a difference 11 months makes.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol 0 Posted August 14, 2007 Share Posted August 14, 2007 Hope Allardyce gets done, the bloke loves himself. And Redknapp being dodgy is the worst kept secret in football. Doubt much will come of it though tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@yourservice 67 Posted August 14, 2007 Share Posted August 14, 2007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@yourservice 67 Posted August 14, 2007 Share Posted August 14, 2007 I almost wish Allardyce had the England job now cos they'd have to sack the fat knacker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 36104 Posted August 14, 2007 Share Posted August 14, 2007 Honestly, I never quite understand what it is with people going hunting for threads like this. I thought Roy Keane was a fucking knacker of a bloke, but if he signed for us as a player, I would have worshipped him. Similar thing with Allardyce turning up as manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jusoda Kid 1 Posted August 14, 2007 Share Posted August 14, 2007 Alex's comments....quality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo 133 Posted August 14, 2007 Share Posted August 14, 2007 Honestly, I never quite understand what it is with people going hunting for threads like this. I thought Roy Keane was a fucking knacker of a bloke, but if he signed for us as a player, I would have worshipped him. Similar thing with Allardyce turning up as manager. To be honest I think I once compared being given the choice of Roeder or Allardyce to have to decide between AIDS or Cancer, I'll admit I was wrong ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 13915 Posted August 14, 2007 Share Posted August 14, 2007 Still early days with Big Sam tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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