CleeToonFan

Not really relevant, but doesn't being a veteran mean they didn't die?

£40 a year is cheap mate. If your a gamer then your not really struggling with money are you? Games are not free and tend to be around ummmm yeah £40. More grown ups your age??? that has baffled me to be honest because going by your posts and bad use of language and structuring sentences I wouldn't put your age much past 13-15. Don't insult 13-15 year olds

I love how DEADMAN complained about someone disagreeing with him, saying "it's a free country"... yet doesn't understand that if it surely is a "free country", games producers should be allowed to release what they want, because they're so "free". I seriously can't believe people genuinely complain about stuff like this, some people just love complaining. Most people who complained about No Russian hadn't played Modern Warfare 2, or knew anything about the story, they're just hyper-sensitive arseholes who would rather we all put our necks in the sand than realise what actually happens in the world. If the game had you doing something with a closer-connection to 7/7 (9/11 has so little to do with this tbh, other than terrorism) I'd understand, but London has been bombed in World War 2, should I complain at every World War 2 game because many people died during the actual conflict? Or is the fact that it was 70 years ago mean it's fine? In which case, in 2071 will it be okay to be playing a game based off 9/11, because it's "purely history". Should I complain at people in York who enjoy their Viking heritage, because "Raping and pillaging" sounds fun when it's people in funny hats (not true btw) 1000 years ago, but they haven't even begun to think about the feelings of the Anglo-Saxons. Deadman, in this argument you, and all the middle class "Gaming isn't a real media" 50 year olds have no leg to stand on.

Yeah it is, the first demo was shoddy. You'll probably not like it if you turned it off so quickly though; all preference really and if you've never really been into PES then it's not gonna become fifa-like all of a sudden.

5 ex-Newcastle players in the Classic England squad (unless i've had a mare and missed any), respect to whoever can get em all

Thought it was impressive, how they got every region colour coded and correct with all the years etc... then I saw that they had Grimsby Town down as fucking Yorkshire

I have both, Xboxs are better but they're both so similar that it really does depend on your situation. Since most of your mates have ps3s probs the best option for you tbh, onlines not as good but if you're with your mates online that's what's more important!

AC Milan unable to Master BATE

I love how Sunderland fans all know so much about our squad and spend so long analysing it . I probably know very little about how all but their best players play, nevermind whether they'd be better in a different formation etc etc etc

No different to FIFA though is what I'm getting at. And with all due respect to Pro Evo, FIFA doesn't need option files because it's got all the content anyway. Not really. National teams, Champs League teams, Turkish league etc all can't be added to Fifa

Aye not every month on the dot, but they do them an awful lot, not just the typical January update, besides with the different option files updating all the time it's like a new game

What is?

Give PES 2012 a go! They update it every month too to make sure it's fresh/correct bugs/update boots etc etc etc. A football game that cares about its customers? Surely not

I don't want my players tripping over every 5 minutes and doing some sort of weird fall to the floor 5 meters away. The multiplayer servers are always shit, and with me using my uni halls internet my internets not great, I prefer PES for offline and will try it online a bit too (Online Master League! ). Apparently PES is even harder than usual, I dunno i've just always thought like Fifa's for kids; but each to their own if you think it's arcadey. All I know is that it's amazing so far and i'm loving every minute of playing a proper football game!

Wouldn't be surprised if the police didn't come down brutally on that sorta shit, making sure all the kids had their names taken down and that, whilst ignoring real crimes on the other side of the city.

Aye of course he did cool things, was still a wanker mind. I don't think the point of Park Life here was to say that Gaddafi was brilliant, but that he did good things too. Most dictators do good things, they just get outweighed by the negatives.

Trading in Fifa and gonna buy PES tomorrow, already downloaded an option file to get the real kits/names/Championship/More teams/stats so they're based off FM etc, I loved the demo so hopefully it's as good as I hope , can't handle Fifa any more I just don't think it's very good this year, doesn't seem realistic, especially when I always prefer Fifa multiplayer and it's even worse than usual this year.

I'm not a Geordie but still hate Sunderland, probably because I've never met a Mackem I've liked. I hate Liverpool under Dalglish now, although other than Leeds and any club from that disgrace of a place North of the Humber Bridge and South of the Tees, I don't think there's a side I hate at the minute more than Man City, I think hatred of non-rival teams usually comes from the most random places, and I also have a genuine "An Irrational Hatred of Luton" . I think it's the minority of Liverpool fans who ruin it for everyone else, who can't have a football discussion without masturbating over their "Amazing Fans", and not having an answer when you mention the fact that they had a shaky first half to the season last year and managed to have about 6 thousand empty seats despite having a small stadium

Wrexham and Oxford?

Didn't Coloccini make his debut on that same game as Jonas and play awful?

That's the nudist section. You might be next to me Nudist section, i like the sound of that Aye, and it's also where the Sky Sports camera's tend to go when they're looking for people to discuss the club. You ever wondered why you see fat people with NUFC tattooed on them with no shirt on? That's the nudist section too. Enjoy!

When you were born, you were the:5,562,289,606thperson alive on Earth80,787,207,423rd Wooo

Wonder if they'll bring out a white away?

Wasn't the Libyan HDI the largest in Africa and on par with many European countries? That's amazing tbf