Rayvin

Any insight into how they're overcoming the challenges?

I think I've said it before, but I would very genuinely support mass arrests of Tory politicians for crimes that IMO amount to treason over the past 5-10 years.

Totally agree, no one they've had since has done anything remarkable. In fairness though I think that club is just completely unmanageable.

Absolutely, 100%, right there with you.

Have come to like West Ham somewhat due to a combination of actually finding myself happy for Moyes to have won something at last - and Wilson's podcast. They look decent this year, I reckon it's going to be a tough game - but if we've got the legs for it we should win.

Hope you're right on this, sincerely. I hope I live to see that party collapse to the point of not even being in opposition.

Aye but they've been unable to avoid the consequences of that lie by being consistently in power. And also, arguably, Brexit removed the one great scapegoat the Tories always had. When Labour win it immediately muddies the water.

I fucking knew I spelled that wrong - I even googled it afterwards cos it felt wrong. But then I think google returned the results for the word blythe and my inebriated brain just didn't sweat the details from that point

I'm not apologising for the truth I had indeed had a few when I wrote that though, and it disturbs me a bit that you could tell

Am reading through the hidden thread to see their reactions and IMO it was more muted than usual (mostly because anyone who posted in the thread was roundly attacked by 5 or 6 other posters because Sunderland were playing too and no one should even be thinking of our game). Came across this though: I just want to take a moment to call this out for what it is. It's cowardice. Fear. Terror, even. The reality he is putting forward is that we have ceased to be a football club anymore, and are now something different, thus negating our rivalry with them. We are no longer Newcastle United. He's right that the rivalry has died in terms of the true meaning of the word. We are now untouchable to them in a very real sense - after a certain point this will be cemented for all time IMO, not that we're quite there yet. He knows this, we know this. It is no longer a rivalry not because we are no longer Newcastle United, but because they are so comprehensively outclassed by every aspect of our club, that the word no longer has meaning. There aren't 3 clubs in the North East anymore, there is one + a few smaller outfits like Gateshead, Blyth and Sunderland. He can try to reframe this however the damn hell he wants, but he is fucking terrified of the day he can't keep reality out anymore. The day we line up against and then absolutely obliterate them. Truthfully we are already doing this, we are obliterating them in relative terms every day of the week - but eventually it'll come through on the football pitch. This is why they don't want promotion. This is why they want to tell themselves that this is no longer a rivalry. This cowardly, weak, pathetic response from them dressed up in "humanitarian concerns" is transparent and obvious. Die on your fucking feet Sunderland fans, you lying, dismal, cringing excuse for a supporter base.

I see you've cut loose and revealed the inner sex pest instead

You know what that one is a genuine surprise to me. Seems somewhat disputed which of the words is preferred but I have to admit the language authorities apparently come down on your side of it I'd guess queue wins out long term, (with cue only standing a chance because people can't spell queue), but that doesn't change the fact that you were quite right and I was mistaken. I had bought into the idea that you had finally cut loose and revealed the inner, linguistically carefree Fish in the giddy hedonism of the celebrations! My sincerest apologies Dave

Pre-PSG Fish would kick the shit out of Post-PSG Fish for this shit.

Not personally going after Keegan for this one although I think he would have been better off stating that anyone who hasn't played professional men's football has no idea what goes into it. Either way I'm going to blind eye this because I'm biased as fuck.

Smoking is a significant drain in the NHS though and we've fucked the country to the point where soon enough the people who have lung cancer because of it will need to be paying tens of thousands for treatment. Better spare them now than bankrupt them later.

I am so grateful for this. Just can't believe it. So proud of the club.

What in the fuck is that speech. Where has that even come from, who the fuck are we meant to be fighting? Also she heavily over uses the 'stand up and fight bit' in the middle of that to the point of just being comical. They're just painful, they really are.

Honestly they have absolutely convinced themselves that this is a conspiracy and that Darren England is some sort of criminal mastermind. He is "arrogant, clinical and relaxed" apparently, which just confirms it. Here's the thread for anyone interested in mass persecution complexes: https://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=354950.5400

Ah there we go, we got dragged in too.

Thought I'd head over to Rawk and see how the sane and reasonable posters on there are handling this... @LondonBlue Turns out you guys are to blame for this one.

The fact that people could readily believe this says everything anyone needs to know about UEFA

Man, we are fucking aligned on this one

This whole thing could be sorted by an amended process. Instead of yes or no calls on the decisions, just state definitively what the actual outcome is. So instead of 'yes that's correct' or whatever, you say 'Goal'. And this is what is then passed to the on field officials. There is no possible way that then gets misinterpreted. More widely than that, the officials clearly don't know what the recourse is if something like this happens - that's another procedural failure that needs to be addressed. How do we make this right in the immediate aftermath if it happens in future can absolutely be part of the conversation here. For me though, that's as far as this goes - what can we learn from it, how can we minimise the chance of it happening, on we go.

No way it happens, Spurs would fight that all the way.

I support the principle behind it but it does sound unworkable.