Renton

Holy shit. I'm just catching up with this. Has this dick head really abolished the top rate of income tax? And PL et al. think that's a vote winer?

Also there's the simple fact that we are not living in a vacuum, this "mini budget" will have ramifications we cannot control. We maight see parity and worse with the dollar soon.

Even with the energy cap and tax cuts, the large majority are going to be poorer and facing a tough winter. And then you still have..... Truss. She's fucking awful man, none of the positives of Johnson and all the negatives. Too many on here have tory Stockholm syndrome.

Aye, if you're on 8A the pay rise is a pay cut. The whole thing is bullshit. The incremental between 7 and bottom of 8A is tiny and it takes 5 years to get to the top of 8A. Meanwhile you've got a shit ton more responsibilities. The pension is constantly being downgraded too.

Oh how wonderful. Trussump. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/sep/22/liz-truss-could-follow-donald-trump-move-british-embassy-israel-jerusalem

Spice cadet by the looks of it!

Just seen this. WTAF? Mogg is goig to be a complete disaster.

Truss and Mogg. What could possibly go wrong?

Coffey off to a good start. I mean, start as you mean to go on. Make promises with no indication of how you're going to deliver them and without bothering informing professional bodies.

Yeah, didn't know there was some controversy about singing the national anthem at the labour conference. If they normally do, just continue. If they normally don't (and I can't recall them ever doing it), don't. Pretty simple.

Meanwhile the ewerks are in the ascendancy in Norn Iron. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/sep/22/catholics-outnumber-protestants-northern-ireland-census

I HEREBY DECLARE A MORATORIUM ON TURTLE-BASED JOKES.

And the side effects of the radiation can also have some unexpected benefits.

Agree. But environmental groups like Friends of the Earth and Green Peace, as well as the Green party, took an ideological opposition to nuclear which wasn't based on any rational or evidence-based assessment. Which is why I can never support these groups, they have created a feelingof hysteria regarding nuclear which has ultimately been disastrous for climate change. See also Germany, who took a completely irrational decision to eliminate nuclear power after Fukishima. Now dependent on Russian gas.

The tories have banned onshore wind farms and solar farms, both of which can be used multipurpose with grasing animals, but now fracking is okay? I'm sure it's no coincidence that the biggest reserves are thought to be in the NW of England. Bowland-Hadder area has an estimated 4.0 to 64.0 terratonnes. Even by Toontastic standards, that's quite a range.

They need to wake up to the fact that FPTP is fundamentally undemocratic no matter who benefits from it. There are no good arguments for FPTP. The old argument was PR leads to unstable coalitions. We've now had 4 PMs in 6 years with FPTP, I'd wager it will soon be 5 in 7 years.

No.

Just behind? Really? Considering they have a new leader and a dead queen bounce, this is more than just behind.

I'm guessing that's a nerd joke. Edit. Oh, I get it.

I know what your saying but when things start actually affecting people, as recessions always do, they react to that. It's all about the economy at the end of the day. Throw in the fact that Starmer has successfully distanced himself from Corbyn, and then, Truss. That is one turd even Murdoch and Dacre can't polish. In fact, it wouldn't surprise me if Murdoch jumped ship, especially as Starmer isn't much of a threat to him.

That's just based on your personal anecdote and NUFC style thinking though, which is negatively biased. It doesn't align with the polls which are terrible for the cons. And imo, they will only get worse the more people see of Truss and the more cost of living and recession bites.

Agreed. But I listened to him on that politics podcast, the one with Rory Stewart and Alistair Campbell. He didn't even acknowledge there is a problem in Uk politics (unlike both hosts). Nothing big will change under him imo.

I thought the new series was called "Endor". What, so there's no ewoks? Piss poor.

Yeah, but then we snubbed him!

I'm really not sure why you think this. I suspect it might have something to do with supporting NUFC.