David Kelly

Really enjoyed the last season of Boardwalk. They kind of painted themselves into a corner with Luciano, Lanskey and Capone because anyone with any knowledge of these real life gangsters knew how they ended up but it was still a much more interesting story than season 4 and I think I came to a pretty decent conclusion. It might have been nice to see one more all out war for Nucky but they would have had to rewrite history to do it.

How the fuck did that happen? All the players were excellent but I'll give special praise to Squidward, Dummett & and Abeid who I have written off many times. Well done lads fuck Pardew and the far cunt trying to have us knocked out. Best we've played in ages that.

Mangala could have been sent off for that challenge on Abeid. Elbow right in his gish.

Raylor needs to come off. He's way off the pace. And he's never been a centre mid.

Just say cunt man, this isn't newcastle online.

Shambolic again. Personally I think Pardews is bottling it. He expects us to get beat regardless so is just putting out a week as fuck team. It's a fucking stupid one though. Two wingers with a four foot striker and that clown Dummett in a position that he's actually worse in than left back. We could get twatted worse than the tramps at Southampton here. He'd get sacked by any other owner for putting out such a team. Of course he'll probably get a bonus from the fat cunt.

Racist

Ah you confused me with the addition of an I in his first name I knew I recognised the name but the context confused me. Yes I think we can all agree we wouldn't want Sammy to turn out like him.

Not on the right!

Who the fuck is Amir Zaki by the way? I assume he must have played for us at one point but I have no memory of him at all. And I'm guessing from the other players you mentioned he must have been in the premier league era?

I wouldn't be content if he had a career like Shola because if that was all he amounted to and stayed here the whole time, we'd have a pretty rank average player and we'd be a pretty poor side if we were accomodating that. I agree with what Alex said in that Shola became a cult hero because he's been here when we've generally been wank. If he'd played most of his career through the hieghts of Keegan and Robson he'd be considered universally like Serrant/Brady/Disco Des. But of course they wouldn't have relied on him like we have through Souness/Roeder/Fat Cunt Sam/Kinnear/Hughton/Pardew. I disagree that he was a bottom half of the premiership player, certainly not in the last five years (maybe around the time that Roeder actually got some performances from him). He's been Championship level since before we were actually playing there. As for Taylor yeah you're right he's a tosser and he's been lower prem level at a push for a number of years too. Like Shola I think it's a shame he's never really come close to reaching his potential (maybe he did when he was first choice with Colo when we finished 5th) although I think he's certainly being hampered there by having a complete fuckwit managing him during what should be his prime. I don't think he'll ever be looked upon in the same way as Shola probably by either of the camps you mentioned earlier. Unless he stays for another 5 years or more and is as incompetant as he's been over the last couple of seasons I don't think he'll get the same (unfair) hatred that Shola gets from some, nor do I think he'll ever be looked upon as fondly because as has been perfectly stated, he's thicker than whale spunk. I agree this has been a bit of a pointless argument but then again isn't that what this place is for?

I'm not in either of the camps you mention, I just simply recongnised that he never lived up to the early promise and for whatever reason never became a player of Premier league quality. But I think the camp that do vilify him more than dross like Bassedas or Charvet or whoever, do so because we were forced to see him trot out for more than a decade. At least the others were shipped out reasonably sharpish. Of course that's not his fault though. You yourself admit he wasn't good enough yet you seem to be arguing that you would rather his brother ended up like him not being good enough yet hanging around for ten years of mostly dross than be released to play at a level that suited him. I don't understand that view point. Of course we'd all like to see him turn into Ronaldo (and of course we know that won't happen) but there is plenty inbetween where he is a regularly useful player. Ranging from the likes of Aaron Hughes who was solid all the way up to Shearer who was exceptional. We shouldn't be settling for not good enough. Fuck knows what's going on with him being in Turkey but I suspect he wasn't inundated with offers from the Championship so he went somewhere he was wanted. I find it odd if there wasn't teams in Australia/America/wherever after him that would have been better than where he ended up like.

I never said I blamed him for any of it (as I said the majority of managers he had here were shite also (Keegan wanted rid of him iirc)). All I said is that he was shite and we should want Sammy to be better than him. I've no doubt he will go down as a cult hero for his goals against the scum and his stellar penalty record but that doesn't change the fact that he was a player not up to the standard he was supposed to be playing at (as evidenced by the fact that once he left he signed for a Turkish 2nd tier team who are currently only off the bottom on goal difference and apparently have hardly anyone turning up to watch the games). I'm not sure that you can say we found his best position at the end though. He was fucking awful even by his standards the last two seasons.

Nah I'm not having that. He was fucking terrible for the vast majority of his career here. When I said robbed a living, I was more meaning he was here under false pretences than he put no effort in. I do think he genuinely wanted to do well but his mobility was piss poor. More often than not everyone was dismayed when he was brought on (invariably he started on the bench because even the mostly incompetent managers we had for most of his time here realised he was wank). He may have been likeable, an excellent penalty taker and scored a few important goals against the tramps, but he should have been shipped out in his early twenties.

Ah so basically Ashley's got in with the Chairman and he's pushed it Asheleys way to keep his job.

Really? His brother robbed a living off us for more than ten year. He was never a premier league player. I'd rather hope he was considerably better than him.

You'd certainly never guess we spend 4 days a week practicing defending like but the one day attacking looks plausible although I'm probably surprised it's so much.

I said after the Palace game that it looked like Pardew had drilled it into them to be terrified of Zaha and I think in general this is one of his tactical plans. He focuses so much on what the opponents can do and how to stop them that he forgets that the best way is to keep the ball away from them by enforcing our game onto them. It's like he's trying to be some sort of tactical genius in finding ways to nulify the oppostion but all that ends up doing is inviting teams onto us.

I'm sure there must be some logical reason why he could have took legal action if they hadn't accepted his offer but I can't see it in that article. I can't really see why Rangers would want to accept his offer at all if I'm honest. It just seems to be giving him control over their assets which blatently seems to be something he wants for his own purposes, rather than to benefit the club at all. Obviously they're in a pretty desperate financial position but each article I read suggests there are other people making offers too. Are they worse than him?

It's amazing how big he looks there like. He still needs a lot more control on the pitch if he's ever going to be a consistent performer iyam. However, he's done pretty well whenever he's played this season and given that the team as a whole has been so bad it's definitely looking more positive for him.

It's quite funny reading back through this thread from complete gloom right until 8 seconds into the second half. I don't think there's any need to critise Pardew at all about yesterday, it was a great result for us (against an admittedly poor bunch of cockney makems) and he made positive changes that worked pretty much perfectly. No doubt he will quickly go back to the negative shite that he loves and he'll deserve the abuse that he gets then.

Never mind this, get to the important part. What do those tramps down the A19 think about the result. We're all on tenterhooks here man!

So we're agreed on bellends then?

And Athletico Madrid.

You've got to laugh really don't you