Isegrim

If we're playing that game Are you playing a different game of looking at old threads now?

He should do it more often to demonstrate what clueless tossers those two are.

Sort of agree but at the same time the owner not only employed him but has stuck by him in all this. He's the one with the real power and, as such, is the root of all our problems. I blame Ashley for being a incredible thick owner of a football club who is getting almost all of his decisions wrong. Though I don't think you need any qualifications to own a football club, but you should have some managerial ability when you are employed to run it.

I think Llambiarse should get even more stick than Ashley. He's doing the day to day stuff at the club and should be capable of stopping Ashley to make stupid decisions. It's either that were he fails or that he is proposing those decisions himself. He has absolutely no qualifications to run a football club and since pissing off Keegan has at no point proven he actually can grow into the job. He's the real cancer at the club iyam.

he must be on his "plan J" by now. Which means he has neither a plan nor a clue.

Couldn't catch any news until a couple of minutes ago. I wish I'd not. Alan fucking Pardew for five fucking years? Are they serious?

Klinsmann will be happy with this...

FACTS are so much better than "plans"!

Do you still support the Toon? Escape while you can... I was actually thinking about trying to make it to at least one game this season. Now I'll be back to stamping my foot in protest down here tbh

Oh dear.

Of course appointing Pardew instead of Hughton would be a joke, but I am unsure how it stands in comparison to sacking Bobby Robson and appointing Graeme Souness instead tbh

Hmm, that scenario is soooo 2008 tbh.

Kevin Keegan. Can't see O'Neill coming with him unlikely to agree to work under the restrictions imposed by Ashley. Can't see any decent foreigner coming either -rather some obscure Spanish estate manager and friend from Jimenez. In the end we will probably see both Pardew and then Kinnear on the touchline during the course of the remaining season...

Sacking him after Jan would have been too late if they wanted a change as is clear they do. That depends on who comes in now. When you look at the comments from Campbell then Hughton still had the backing of the squad. So at this moment I think the decision to sack a manager who still has the support of the players and fans is rather likely to spectacularly backfire as long as you don't really have a better plan up your sleaves. Anyway what makes even less sense is the sacking of Paul Barron. Why get rid of a goalkeeping coach when you already don't have enough staff available and no new man is there (yet).

I had my reservations about Hughton and his game approach, but only an utter fool would have sacked him at this stage after the last two years and under the current circumstances (no sufficient funds). I don't believe we will get someone in "to take the club forward". We will get some run-off-the-mill cockney out of the job for some time who will actually put us into a downward spiral with the team spirit likely to be rock bottom now.

Welcome back, Joe.

They probably wanted to cash in before the odds were getting even worse...

I disagree with this. We were excellent against the scum, Villa and Arsenal and played well against Citeh (we were robbed of at least a point on the day), Chelsea, Wolves, Everton. We didn't actually play badly for the most part against Blackpool and Stoke. The only games where I think we have been pretty abject is Wigan, Blackburn and the last two away games. Compare this to two years ago where we barely looked like we gave a fuck about trying to play decently let alone actually managing it, and I think we're much healthier and we will be ok. Unless we add in January, Caroll stays fit for the rest of the season and Ben Arfa comes back quickly and successfully, we won't do much more than just avoid the drop but I don't think we'll go down. We played well against Sunderland and Villa who totally fell apart though. Against Arsenal and Chelsea it were spirited performances from an inferior team. I can't comment on Man City and Everton as I didn't see those matches but guess we played well then. Again it was against arguably superior teams. Against Blackpool we were unlucky, but against Stoke it was an abortion of a performance. The thing is that we can't rely on just getting results against the better teams. It will be the poor performances against the of the bottom half who will cost us if we don't sort out things. And the quality of football has been rubbish in most games tbh. If we don't go in front by two or three goals it is hoofing balls up front to Carrol or Nolan crawling into goal scoring positions.

Even with all those first team players we've been absolutely woeful for a lot of games this season tbh. There have been some decent performances as well of course, but in general we are totally lacking any style and class. We play like a team full of cloggers managed by Sam Allardyce so a Boltonesque survival campaign seems on the card. The thing is that the decent performances were mostly down to commitment and team spirit which is going to suffer the more points we will drop. As the last time showed, it's pretty difficult to work yourself out of the relegation zone.

We're playing like Real Madrid though... ... a Real Madrid managed by Sam Allardyce. Hoofing the ball all the time and hoping for set pieces.

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The delegates aren't looking for substance though, they're looking for someone to make them feel important, to mix with 'celebrities'. IIRC we sent Claudia Schiffer to the final presentation for those reasons... Heidi Klum would have been preferable to Miss Piggy like. See, you would make a great member of the next English commitee. It's not about quality but about what those corrupt old perverts want to see.

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The delegates aren't looking for substance though, they're looking for someone to make them feel important, to mix with 'celebrities'. IIRC we sent Claudia Schiffer to the final presentation for those reasons...