Jusoda Kid 1 Posted July 16, 2007 Share Posted July 16, 2007 As long as souness hangs i would quite willingly take a points deduction. I'm confident we'll still finish above the mackems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themags 0 Posted July 16, 2007 Share Posted July 16, 2007 the mackems at work have been having a wankfest over this talking about points deductions and all sorts till that statement came out least the club is not in the shit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia 0 Posted July 16, 2007 Share Posted July 16, 2007 Sky seemed to think that we're the victim of any crime rather than the perpetrators. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jusoda Kid 1 Posted July 16, 2007 Share Posted July 16, 2007 Someone has just posted this on the Ronnie gill forum: http://forums.icnewcastle.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=1670 The investigation in part relates to the Boumsong £8.5million "transfer" from Rangers. Rangers were also raided by Strathclyde Police this morning. Northumbria Police have raided apart from St. James Park two homes in Newcastle (The occupants both share the same surname). My police source says that the two people with the same surname are being investigated along with a former Newcastle manager ( whose name starts with the same letter as the Newcastle 2) and a Scottish agent based in France. From a police source Journalists have long suggested that the Boumsong deal was bent. He went from a Bosman free transfer in the summer to a £8.5 million buy in the January transfer window, but only a small amount of the cash went into Rangers bank. My sources say it went offshore and was then divided between fouir people. The trail has been opened by a 61-year-old man- nothing to do with football- who has been arrested for money laundering large sums of cash. He has spilled the beans to London fraud squad not the Stevens inquiry. Computers have been taken away from St. James and the two Newcastle home but they are not looking for porn, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasepud 59 Posted July 16, 2007 Share Posted July 16, 2007 As long as souness hangs i would quite willingly take a points deduction. I'm confident we'll still finish above the mackems. Im with you on that, but we still get to see Carr shot somewhere thouugh...dont we?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knackers 0 Posted July 16, 2007 Share Posted July 16, 2007 It could be Big Sam....we are linked with this bollocks in more ways than sou and shep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted July 16, 2007 Share Posted July 16, 2007 Someone has just posted this on the Ronnie gill forum: http://forums.icnewcastle.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=1670 The investigation in part relates to the Boumsong £8.5million "transfer" from Rangers. Rangers were also raided by Strathclyde Police this morning. Northumbria Police have raided apart from St. James Park two homes in Newcastle (The occupants both share the same surname). My police source says that the two people with the same surname are being investigated along with a former Newcastle manager ( whose name starts with the same letter as the Newcastle 2) and a Scottish agent based in France. From a police source Journalists have long suggested that the Boumsong deal was bent. He went from a Bosman free transfer in the summer to a £8.5 million buy in the January transfer window, but only a small amount of the cash went into Rangers bank. My sources say it went offshore and was then divided between fouir people. The trail has been opened by a 61-year-old man- nothing to do with football- who has been arrested for money laundering large sums of cash. He has spilled the beans to London fraud squad not the Stevens inquiry. Computers have been taken away from St. James and the two Newcastle home but they are not looking for porn, Do I win a Dusty Bin if I get it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Lazaru 0 Posted July 16, 2007 Share Posted July 16, 2007 Someone has just posted this on the Ronnie gill forum: http://forums.icnewcastle.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=1670 The investigation in part relates to the Boumsong £8.5million "transfer" from Rangers. Rangers were also raided by Strathclyde Police this morning. Northumbria Police have raided apart from St. James Park two homes in Newcastle (The occupants both share the same surname). My police source says that the two people with the same surname are being investigated along with a former Newcastle manager ( whose name starts with the same letter as the Newcastle 2) and a Scottish agent based in France. From a police source Journalists have long suggested that the Boumsong deal was bent. He went from a Bosman free transfer in the summer to a £8.5 million buy in the January transfer window, but only a small amount of the cash went into Rangers bank. My sources say it went offshore and was then divided between fouir people. The trail has been opened by a 61-year-old man- nothing to do with football- who has been arrested for money laundering large sums of cash. He has spilled the beans to London fraud squad not the Stevens inquiry. Computers have been taken away from St. James and the two Newcastle home but they are not looking for porn, Do I win a Dusty Bin if I get it? If those four arseholes could get in deep shit without it affecting the club it would be fantastic, if something they did affected our club then i'd hope each one of them was hunted down and had the living shit kicked out of them! Whoever "they" may be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fop 1 Posted July 16, 2007 Share Posted July 16, 2007 Someone has just posted this on the Ronnie gill forum: http://forums.icnewcastle.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=1670 The investigation in part relates to the Boumsong £8.5million "transfer" from Rangers. Rangers were also raided by Strathclyde Police this morning. Northumbria Police have raided apart from St. James Park two homes in Newcastle (The occupants both share the same surname). My police source says that the two people with the same surname are being investigated along with a former Newcastle manager ( whose name starts with the same letter as the Newcastle 2) and a Scottish agent based in France. From a police source Journalists have long suggested that the Boumsong deal was bent. He went from a Bosman free transfer in the summer to a £8.5 million buy in the January transfer window, but only a small amount of the cash went into Rangers bank. My sources say it went offshore and was then divided between fouir people. The trail has been opened by a 61-year-old man- nothing to do with football- who has been arrested for money laundering large sums of cash. He has spilled the beans to London fraud squad not the Stevens inquiry. Computers have been taken away from St. James and the two Newcastle home but they are not looking for porn, Do I win a Dusty Bin if I get it? TBH a huge bung deal is the ONLY explanation for anyone buying Bumsong (and that includes Hartlepool). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26345 Posted July 16, 2007 Share Posted July 16, 2007 Amady Faye anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gejon 2 Posted July 16, 2007 Share Posted July 16, 2007 Sky seemed to think that we're the victim of any crime rather than the perpetrators. Looking at some of our past transfers we are definitely victims! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasepud 59 Posted July 16, 2007 Share Posted July 16, 2007 Sky seemed to think that we're the victim of any crime rather than the perpetrators. Do victims usually get raided then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JawD 31 Posted July 16, 2007 Share Posted July 16, 2007 Local news throwing a big question mark over the Boumsong transfer. Or at least mentioned it along with Rangers being another one of the clubs. Yeah, and I bet that would have us all lost for words.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordieshandy 0 Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 Newcastle relaxed about police raids Michael Walker Tuesday July 17, 2007 The Guardian Mike Ashley's new regime at Newcastle United was described as "not happy but reasonably relaxed" about the intrusive developments at St James' Park yesterday as Ashley set about distancing the new owners from any inquiries into past transfers. When confirming that officers from the City of London police had been inside the Newcastle ground yesterday morning, the new regime stressed: "The club itself is not the subject of the investigation." That will be welcomed on Tyneside, where thoughts were turning back to January 2005 and the incoming transfers of Jean-Alain Boumsong and Amady Faye. Those two deals, two of the 17 which Lord Stevens felt unable to "sign off" in his recent report, were at the centre of yesterday's investigations, Newcastle having been the purchasers from the other two named clubs, Rangers and Portsmouth. The time distance means that no suspicion can be attached to Ashley's regime and the increased scale and seriousness of the investigations may ultimately lead to an end to the innuendo that dogged the Boumsong transfer in particular. Ashley instigated a "strategic review" on acquiring the club and it is being led by the new deputy chairman, Christopher Mort. It is understood that some of what is being unearthed is displeasing Ashley, though whether that relates to historic transfers is unknown. What is known is that the Boumsong deal was so odd that it was commented upon by every observer and plenty of Newcastle fans at the time. Four months after succeeding Sir Bobby Robson as manager, Graeme Souness was in his first transfer window as Newcastle manager. At £8.2m, Boumsong was his first big statement in the market and Souness compared the Frenchman to John Terry and Rio Ferdinand in terms of what he might bring to Newcastle's notoriously fragile defence, which had just lost the England international Jonathan Woodgate to Real Madrid. The difficulty Souness and Newcastle had in persuading assessors of the worth of the deal was twofold. First, that no other club was known to be challenging Rangers to sign Boumsong and, second, that six months earlier Boumsong had left Auxerre for Rangers on a free transfer. Newcastle were well aware of Boumsong prior to his departure from Auxerre because Robson had travelled to France to watch him. Robson declined the opportunity to sign the centre-half, even on a free transfer, and his doubts about Boumsong's suitability for British football were confirmed when the club's talismanic England striker Alan Shearer was marked by Boumsong in a pre-season game against Rangers and came off to speak in dismissive terms about the Frenchman's lack of physicality. Shearer, famous for guarded comments, even mentioned Boumsong's previous availability on a free transfer on television and when Boumsong made his Newcastle debut against Yeading in the FA Cup at Loftus Road, and was given a torrid time by DJ Campbell, doubts over the wisdom of the transfer mushroomed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammynb 2929 Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 Was Amdy one of big Willies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paddy 9 Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 yeah he was Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paddy 9 Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 he also looks after Joey Barton Pascal Chimbonda Henri Camara Faye Boomsong Djimi Traore Diomansy Kamara Ousmane Dabo Nicolas Anelka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1117 Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 Clearly the fraud investigation centre's around Boumsong and Faye's claims to be footballers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo 133 Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 Clearly the fraud investigation centre's around Boumsong and Faye's claims to be footballers! Souness for impersonating a football manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 3978 Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 If the way Boumsong tuened out is left aside for a moment (a big deal I know) theres a lot of stuff being written which is stretching hindsight to make more of a story. First of all there are snide remarks about Boumsong being a free transfer from Auxerre - has nobody heard of Bosman? - his contract was up. Secondly He did do well at Rangers according to most people - I'm one of the first to refer to the SPL as pub football but it does count for something. Thirdly thanks to Shepherd's wonderful sense of timing in selling Woodgate just before the deadline we were obviously desperate which would have been exploited by any club and/or agent. Fourthly it looks like he has done okay at Juventus and for France - my honest opinion is that he isn't a bad player just completely unsuited for the Premiership. All of the above doesn't mean that I don't think the coziness of Souness, McKay and Murray in the deal exempts it from suspicion and I wouldn't be surprised if something was amiss but the less than subtle detective work in some of the media articles does go too far imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 34461 Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 All of the above doesn't mean that I don't think the coziness of Souness, McKay and Murray in the deal exempts it from suspicion and I wouldn't be surprised if something was amiss but the less than subtle detective work in some of the media articles does go too far imo. Aye I think that's just a function of them having nothing to report and therefore coming up with their own half-arsed theories. Whether it is "interesting" that we bought both Faye and Boumsong from the other raided clubs, or whether it's just coincidence, we'll hopefully find out before too long. I just want to know exactly what/who they're looking into. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jusoda Kid 1 Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 Boil down to nothing i reckon, they would have been fingered by now if it was going to happen imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia 0 Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 The main thing that makes the Boumsong deal a bit fishy from my point of view is the fact that only a week or two before we signed him, Murray came out and said he would accept offers for £4million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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