José Enrique

[Billy Whitehurst 791]

Off the top of my head, would rather have Cole, Evra, Clichy, Coentrao who are better than Enrique.

 

Don't get me wrong, I think Enrique is quality but not one of the best in the world.

[Tooj 17]

I think Clichy has stagnated as a player, hasn't really pushed on in the last couple of seasons.

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I'd rather have Leighton Baines that Enrique.

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In fact, if enrique is intent on running down his contract I'd rather flog him now. Shop him around and see if there are any takers because he'll just be a distraction until January.

 

If he doesn't want to play for us then fuck him.

[Guest alex]

I reckon Everton would sell Baines but we wouldn't pay the asking price. I think the idea of trying to sell Enrique if he doesn't sign a new contract may have dawn on Ashley and Llambias already btw.

[Ayatollah Hermione 12774]

Asier Del Horno is available on a free. Remember him? Went from Chelsea to Levante in about 3 seasons.

[Monroe Transfer 0]

Let's bring in Per Kroldrop.

[Ayatollah Hermione 12774]

Any more obscure former PL left-backs we can take?

[Barney 0]

OHAI GUYS, WOTS GOIN ON IN HERE?

 

[StevieRoss 0]

Off the top of my head, would rather have Cole, Evra, Clichy, Coentrao who are better than Enrique.

 

Don't get me wrong, I think Enrique is quality but not one of the best in the world.

 

This bloke is the best LB in the business at the minute. Baines is better than Enrique.

[Monroe Transfer 0]

Off the top of my head, would rather have Cole, Evra, Clichy, Coentrao who are better than Enrique.

 

Don't get me wrong, I think Enrique is quality but not one of the best in the world.

 

This bloke is the best LB in the business at the minute.

 

Weren't you just criticising Cabaye in another thread for playing in an mediocre league?

 

Don't get me wrong, I'm sure you're an avid watcher of football in Portugal.

[StevieRoss 0]

Off the top of my head, would rather have Cole, Evra, Clichy, Coentrao who are better than Enrique.

 

Don't get me wrong, I think Enrique is quality but not one of the best in the world.

 

This bloke is the best LB in the business at the minute.

 

Weren't you just criticising Cabaye in another thread for playing in an mediocre league?

 

Don't get me wrong, I'm sure you're an avid watcher of football in Portugal.

 

Coentrao was the best left back at the World Cup. Not sure, but I don't think Cabaye was the best midfielder there... (As it happens, I've seen Coentrao play half a dozen times for Benfica.) Do you really want to go there - we got a better player with Cabaye, or Real Madrid have with Coentrao..?? Are you really going to win that one?

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[Kevin S. Assilleekunt 1]

Oh, he'll go there all right; by fucking christ he'll go there.

[LeazesMag 0]

Tecato falling off the fence here, and landing on the Ashley side.

[ChezGiven 0]

Off the top of my head, would rather have Cole, Evra, Clichy, Coentrao who are better than Enrique.

 

Don't get me wrong, I think Enrique is quality but not one of the best in the world.

 

This bloke is the best LB in the business at the minute.

 

Weren't you just criticising Cabaye in another thread for playing in an mediocre league?

 

Don't get me wrong, I'm sure you're an avid watcher of football in Portugal.

 

Coentrao was the best left back at the World Cup. Not sure, but I don't think Cabaye was the best midfielder there... (As it happens, I've seen Coentrao play half a dozen times for Benfica.) Do you really want to go there - we got a better player with Cabaye, or Real Madrid have with Coentrao..?? Are you really going to win that one?

In what way was he the best LB at the World Cup? He was playing in a side that put 11 men behind the ball for 90 minutes, showed no attacking endeavour and whose goals against record shows more how defensively minded the whole side was, rather than the ability of the LB.

 

That doesn't change the fact that you have criticised the french league to justify a point of view whilst feting a Portuguese player as the best in the world in his position, when the former league is arguably stronger. Its really just on the basis of the 4 WC games presumably in which the national side only had any ambition to score against North Korea.

 

You either accept the success of players in other leagues or you dont, Tecato was correct to point this out.

[Kevin S. Assilleekunt 1]

Let's get real though: Coentrao is shit-hot

[ChezGiven 0]

I have no doubt about that, i also think the attitude that a player who is good abroad wont necessarily be any good here is daft.

 

Its based on seeing players coming from abroad and failing. What this fails to account for is the number of successes. For every Guivarch, there is a Henry. Well not quite but at the statistical level i'd bet that roughly 'Total British Players succeeding / Total British debuts = Total foreigners succeeding / Total foreign Debuts'.

 

If a British player fails, he wasnt good enough, if a foreign player fails its because that player's domestic league is weak.

 

Utter shite imo. You can always tell an argument is a bit shit when its apparently won by e.g. one word 'Guivarch'.

[Kevin Carr's Gloves 3221]

I have no doubt about that, i also think the attitude that a player who is good abroad wont necessarily be any good here is daft.

 

Its based on seeing players coming from abroad and failing. What this fails to account for is the number of successes. For every Guivarch, there is a Henry. Well not quite but at the statistical level i'd bet that roughly 'Total British Players succeeding / Total British debuts = Total foreigners succeeding / Total foreign Debuts'.

 

If a British player fails, he wasnt good enough, if a foreign player fails its because that player's domestic league is weak.

 

Utter shite imo. You can always tell an argument is a bit shit when its apparently won by e.g. one word 'Guivarch'.

 

 

Or maybe foreign players in a weaker league look better than they actually are. So they fail because like the british player they weren't good enough but looked better than that because of the level of football they played at prior to coming to the PL.

 

Lik a championship player looking shit hot but then not stepping up to PL level. We have a few of those.

[StoneColdStephenIreland 74]

Tbh I bet if Enrique signed another contract with us thered be a fair few more people saying he is one of the top LB's in the world

 

The whole contract business seems to have clouded peoples judgement on the lads ability and what he brings to us

 

Wasnt there a thread a while ago where i think Ajax Andy was arguing that Baines was better but the majority agreed that Enrique was?

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I have no doubt about that, i also think the attitude that a player who is good abroad wont necessarily be any good here is daft.

 

Its based on seeing players coming from abroad and failing. What this fails to account for is the number of successes. For every Guivarch, there is a Henry. Well not quite but at the statistical level i'd bet that roughly 'Total British Players succeeding / Total British debuts = Total foreigners succeeding / Total foreign Debuts'.

 

If a British player fails, he wasnt good enough, if a foreign player fails its because that player's domestic league is weak.

 

Utter shite imo. You can always tell an argument is a bit shit when its apparently won by e.g. one word 'Guivarch'.

 

 

 

Substitute Boumsong for Guivarch. Or Marcelhino. Or Bassedas. Or Viana. Or Andersson. Or Pistone.

 

Tell me when to stop.

 

While I agree we've had home born players who have turned out to be shite, most of the foreign ones at Newcastle have done so spectacularly.

[StoneColdStephenIreland 74]

I have no doubt about that, i also think the attitude that a player who is good abroad wont necessarily be any good here is daft.

 

Its based on seeing players coming from abroad and failing. What this fails to account for is the number of successes. For every Guivarch, there is a Henry. Well not quite but at the statistical level i'd bet that roughly 'Total British Players succeeding / Total British debuts = Total foreigners succeeding / Total foreign Debuts'.

 

If a British player fails, he wasnt good enough, if a foreign player fails its because that player's domestic league is weak.

 

Utter shite imo. You can always tell an argument is a bit shit when its apparently won by e.g. one word 'Guivarch'.

 

 

 

Substitute Boumsong for Guivarch. Or Marcelhino. Or Bassedas. Or Viana. Or Andersson. Or Pistone.

 

Tell me when to stop.

 

While I agree we've had home born players who have turned out to be shite, most of the foreign ones at Newcastle have done so spectacularly.

 

Solano, Robert, Ginola etc tbh

 

Obviously we're gonna have more foreign flops than english mostly because weve had alot more foreigners in recent times than homegrown players

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I have no doubt about that, i also think the attitude that a player who is good abroad wont necessarily be any good here is daft.

 

Its based on seeing players coming from abroad and failing. What this fails to account for is the number of successes. For every Guivarch, there is a Henry. Well not quite but at the statistical level i'd bet that roughly 'Total British Players succeeding / Total British debuts = Total foreigners succeeding / Total foreign Debuts'.

 

If a British player fails, he wasnt good enough, if a foreign player fails its because that player's domestic league is weak.

 

Utter shite imo. You can always tell an argument is a bit shit when its apparently won by e.g. one word 'Guivarch'.

 

 

 

Substitute Boumsong for Guivarch. Or Marcelhino. Or Bassedas. Or Viana. Or Andersson. Or Pistone.

 

Tell me when to stop.

 

While I agree we've had home born players who have turned out to be shite, most of the foreign ones at Newcastle have done so spectacularly.

 

Solano, Robert, Ginola etc tbh

 

Obviously we're gonna have more foreign flops than english mostly because weve had alot more foreigners in recent times than homegrown players

 

I think your etc,etc is a bit thin after those three. Even Hamann, although not a failure, kicked us in the teeth and basically told us to fuck off.

 

Asprilla next? Don't forget the Robledo brothers.

[The Fish 9027]

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[Roy Aitken's Debut 0]

I have no doubt about that, i also think the attitude that a player who is good abroad wont necessarily be any good here is daft.

 

Its based on seeing players coming from abroad and failing. What this fails to account for is the number of successes. For every Guivarch, there is a Henry. Well not quite but at the statistical level i'd bet that roughly 'Total British Players succeeding / Total British debuts = Total foreigners succeeding / Total foreign Debuts'.

 

If a British player fails, he wasnt good enough, if a foreign player fails its because that player's domestic league is weak.

 

Utter shite imo. You can always tell an argument is a bit shit when its apparently won by e.g. one word 'Guivarch'.

 

 

 

Substitute Boumsong for Guivarch. Or Marcelhino. Or Bassedas. Or Viana. Or Andersson. Or Pistone.

 

Tell me when to stop.

 

While I agree we've had home born players who have turned out to be shite, most of the foreign ones at Newcastle have done so spectacularly.

 

Solano, Robert, Ginola etc tbh

 

Obviously we're gonna have more foreign flops than english mostly because weve had alot more foreigners in recent times than homegrown players

 

I think your etc,etc is a bit thin after those three. Even Hamann, although not a failure, kicked us in the teeth and basically told us to fuck off.

 

Asprilla next? Don't forget the Robledo brothers.

Albert? Coloccini? Tiote? And the most recent let down was if anything more keen on playing for England (and making a portfolio of how good he is) than earning his huge wages fom the Toon