BNP wins seats

[Fop 1]

Not the BNP candidate Fop honestly expected.

 

Labour talking the talk, but still not really sounding like they'll walk the walk.

 

BNP not the only ones doing well from Labours death throws.

[Kid Dynamite 6058]

Not the BNP candidate Fop honestly expected.

 

Labour talking the talk, but still not really sounding like they'll walk the walk.

 

BNP not the only ones doing well from Labours death throws.

 

[Fop 1]

Not the BNP candidate Fop honestly expected.

 

Labour talking the talk, but still not really sounding like they'll walk the walk.

 

BNP not the only ones doing well from Labours death throws.

 

 

 

It's looking like that in Wales, especially if you consider Labours historic electoral record in Wales.

[Kid Dynamite 6058]

Fop needs to buy Fop a dictionary

 

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/throes

[Fop 1]

Fop needs to buy Fop a dictionary

 

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/throes

 

indeed then.

[Guest Stevie]

Soundbites like "restoring and defending out borders"? "British values"? etc etc.

 

 

Unfortunately the Thatcher/Blair legacy is a soundbitified politics. However even though I think Labour have betrayed their ideals and the Tories are cunts, beneath the soundbites you know they have some workable polices - some of which I support and others I don't. The BNP as far as I can see have absolutely no workable policies so when people say "hey, some of their stuff makes sense" they just haven't looked below the surface or don't want to because they just support some of the pinciples on an underlying level.

 

I'd ask LM, Sniffer or anyone who has tacitly said that they have some good ideas to name one and lets discuss how it would actially work - Ketsbaia has quite rightly pointed out the effect on the NHS but here's another one - how would trade with the white commonwealth countries in anyway replace the jobs which depend on the EU and the single market?

 

 

And Stevie, you say you find some of the BNPs policies deplorable? Yet a few months ago you quite proudly stated you had voted for them/were a member of the party

Now this encapsulates why you're a wank. Where did I ever say I was a member of the party, show me, please feel to show me. I said I voted for them in one election as a protest against the ridiculous immigration policies we currently have. My question to you is why say I said I was a member did you do it to a) wind me up b ) cos you're a wank or c) other?

 

Of course I find some of their original policies deplorable, humane repatriation will never work, if they got in it would be a machine job outside their shops and forced on to vans down to Dover, but having said that do have good policies. Not least banning yank telly from our screens, their EU policy and limited coverage of all foreign sports. UKIP are the way forward and at 17% of the vote from 0% 10 years ago, we finally have hope that things will get better in terms of immigration.

 

 

I put a / cos I couldnt remember if you said you voted for them or were a member of the party. Im not sure how you can be horrified at the suggestion if you voted for them tbh. Bit of a strange protest Stevie, voting for a party when you find some of their policies deplorable

 

As for banning yank telly and foreign sports from our TV I bet in the last 6 weeks I can find a post saying your favourite tv show is Sopranos/The Wire/The Shield etc. and another one saying you are just sat down to watch some Spanish footie on telly cos you have a bet on it.

Its fruitloops like you who shouldnt be allowed to vote man!

Its arseholes like you who's views who have allowed this country to descend to the wankhole it is today, where being English is something to be ashamed of.

 

As for yank telly you can look all you like, I've never watched The Soprano's I thought it would be about some fat singers in Italy before Jonny2J waxed lyrical about it, and I don't even know hand on heart what the other two are. I don't watch yank telly, honestly, the last yank telly I watched was one episode of 24 because it was advertised about a nuclear detonation in LA, and I like anything like that, but it was so wank, I just don't enjoy watching American television, it's bland, shite and repetitive. As for Spanish football, I watch as much Spanish football as English football because I love it, it's the most entertaining, skillful league in the world, and I've said that loads of times.

[AgentAxeman 82]

Of course I find some of their original policies deplorable, humane repatriation will never work, if they got in it would be a machine job outside their shops and forced on to vans down to Dover, but having said that do have good policies. Not least banning yank telly from our screens, their EU policy and limited coverage of all foreign sports. UKIP are the way forward and at 17% of the vote from 0% 10 years ago, we finally have hope that things will get better in terms of immigration.

 

The US telly one is a scream for starters - it comes from their underlying notion that "British" is perfect for everything and if we just remove all the outside influences, all our problems would magically disappear - its beyond stupid.

 

As for the EU as I've said until the BNP or the UKIP can actually explain how the economy would work without it, leaving is a non-starter.

 

How anyone can believe the crap UKIP spout is beyond me. Look at who they are ffs, they are basically the extreme right wing loony fringe of mainstream politics, extories with views that were too unpalatable for the tory party. White middle class little Englanders who are utterly corrupt and do not stand for anything positive.

 

As for the BNP, it's ironic, but rather than feel any sense of nationalistic pride in them it make me feel ashamed that nearly one million British people would like us to live in a fascist state. There's simply no excuse for using BNP as a protest vote either, none whatsoever.

 

 

whats wrong with being white, middle class and from england?? ffs you've just killed yer own argument by saying something racist.

i reckon you must have got this straight from the pen of Polly Toynbee, that well known, well balanced socialist who believes everyone should be equal as long as theres still champange and caviar for her and her mates.

whilst i agree that everyone should have they're say all your doing is exactly what you accuse the "far right" of doing which is belittling and criticising everyone who doesnt share your world view.

 

grow up man ffs. you should be more intelligent than to believe the propaganda the far left mainstream media feeds you.

[Guest Stevie]

Fop needs to buy Fop a dictionary

 

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/throes

With some of your spelling on here I think that is probably the second most ironic post I've seen on this message board, after that brummie Villa fan described geordies as thick and fat.

[Guest Stevie]

Of course I find some of their original policies deplorable, humane repatriation will never work, if they got in it would be a machine job outside their shops and forced on to vans down to Dover, but having said that do have good policies. Not least banning yank telly from our screens, their EU policy and limited coverage of all foreign sports. UKIP are the way forward and at 17% of the vote from 0% 10 years ago, we finally have hope that things will get better in terms of immigration.

 

The US telly one is a scream for starters - it comes from their underlying notion that "British" is perfect for everything and if we just remove all the outside influences, all our problems would magically disappear - its beyond stupid.

 

As for the EU as I've said until the BNP or the UKIP can actually explain how the economy would work without it, leaving is a non-starter.

 

How anyone can believe the crap UKIP spout is beyond me. Look at who they are ffs, they are basically the extreme right wing loony fringe of mainstream politics, extories with views that were too unpalatable for the tory party. White middle class little Englanders who are utterly corrupt and do not stand for anything positive.

 

As for the BNP, it's ironic, but rather than feel any sense of nationalistic pride in them it make me feel ashamed that nearly one million British people would like us to live in a fascist state. There's simply no excuse for using BNP as a protest vote either, none whatsoever.

 

 

whats wrong with being white, middle class and from england?? ffs you've just killed yer own argument by saying something racist.

i reckon you must have got this straight from the pen of Polly Toynbee, that well known, well balanced socialist who believes everyone should be equal as long as theres still champange and caviar for her and her mates.

whilst i agree that everyone should have they're say all your doing is exactly what you accuse the "far right" of doing which is belittling and criticising everyone who doesnt share your world view.

 

grow up man ffs. you should be more intelligent than to believe the propaganda the far left mainstream media feeds you.

Well said, be fully prepared for some desperate drivel in reply though.

[bobbyshinton 59]

People vote for the BNP because they're too ignorant to realise what they really stand for. Even Nick Griffin has admitted their real policies are masked by empty rhetoric about caring for the working man etc. because they wouldn't get in if they actually told the truth.

 

A quick read through their last general election manifesto will tell you the type of nutters we're dealing with. They want to move parliament to the Isle of Man, 'invite' Eire back to the union by positioning tens of thousands of heavily armed soldiers on the border and impose ridiculous measures on the press while bleating on about 'freedom of speech'. It's actually beyond parody

 

Unfortunately, not only are they madcap but they're bloody nasty too. When senior members deny the holocaust, equate rape to force feeding a woman chocolate and believe eugenics is a fantastic idea it does become much harder to laugh at them.

 

you could be describing certain sects or religions who actually added bombing to the list. If I point the finger at them I get called racist so I will not.

[ChezGiven 0]

Far left mainstream media?

 

[NJS 3989]

As for yank telly you can look all you like, I've never watched The Soprano's I thought it would be about some fat singers in Italy before Jonny2J waxed lyrical about it, and I don't even know hand on heart what the other two are. I don't watch yank telly, honestly, the last yank telly I watched was one episode of 24 because it was advertised about a nuclear detonation in LA, and I like anything like that, but it was so wank, I just don't enjoy watching American television, it's bland, shite and repetitive. As for Spanish football, I watch as much Spanish football as English football because I love it, it's the most entertaining, skillful league in the world, and I've said that loads of times.

 

So if you think US TV is boring that makes banning it for millions okay?

 

I watch 3 programmes on the BBC and I haven't watched a single programme on ITV for at least 5 years - how about we ban that shite too?

 

The BNP anti-US TV has nothing to do with quality or appeal - its about cultural dilution - another racist argument of theirs.

[Billy Whitehurst 795]

Is banning US TV genuinely a policy of these halfwits?

[AgentAxeman 82]

Far left mainstream media?

 

 

 

 

yes, sorry kidda but the 1st thing any gov does when it gets in is put people in positions of power at all gov controlled media (eg bbc). this then filters down into mainstream media. also all political press releases are directly from the goverment themselves so the media have no choice but to print what is given to them.

 

and before you say the goverment isnt far left just consider that throughout the tenure over half the cabinet ministers have at one time or another been a member of the communist party and if thats not far left then i dont know what is??

 

 

if you think i'm wrong then thats your perogative. if you think i voted for the wrong party at the last round of elections, again thats your perogative. however that doesnt change what i believe. i dont criticise you for your beliefs now do i??

 

[The Fish 9103]

Stevie, they're racist, they've no real idea how they'll enforce the changes they promise and the policies that they're running on are paper thin and ill-conceived.

 

I understand frustration towards the major parties, but a protest vote would be better spent on an independent, or the Green party. At least neither of those options give ignorant racists a megaphone. The story is no longer how awful the central parties are, but how terrible the BNP is. Surely a protest against the directionless central parties should be loud and clear, not lost under the public outrage at the election of bigots and neanderthals?

 

A vote for the BNP is indefensible. Fact-a-lacker-ding-dong

[The Fish 9103]

p.s. @ axeman. It's all a lefty-liberal conspiracy I tells ye

 

 

shouldn't you be an American?

[Ketsbaia 0]

People vote for the BNP because they're too ignorant to realise what they really stand for. Even Nick Griffin has admitted their real policies are masked by empty rhetoric about caring for the working man etc. because they wouldn't get in if they actually told the truth.

 

A quick read through their last general election manifesto will tell you the type of nutters we're dealing with. They want to move parliament to the Isle of Man, 'invite' Eire back to the union by positioning tens of thousands of heavily armed soldiers on the border and impose ridiculous measures on the press while bleating on about 'freedom of speech'. It's actually beyond parody

 

Unfortunately, not only are they madcap but they're bloody nasty too. When senior members deny the holocaust, equate rape to force feeding a woman chocolate and believe eugenics is a fantastic idea it does become much harder to laugh at them.

 

you could be describing certain sects or religions who actually added bombing to the list. If I point the finger at them I get called racist so I will not.

 

That goes without saying. There are wankers in every walk of life, who follow every religion and come in every colour and I have no time for any of 'em. Muslims who want to replace our current system with sharia law are bellends of the highest order, as are Christian's who want to force their nutty religious guidelines on everyone. Fortunately these people are in a minority.

 

I don't understand how you could get called racist for that? Unless you're making a sweeping generalisation and saying that all Muzzies are terrorists which is patently bollocks?

 

Just for the record one of the largest hauls of bomb making equipment in Britain came from a suspected BNP bomb plot, so some members probably do add blowing shit up to the list

Edited June 8, 2009 by Ketsbaia

[Ketsbaia 0]

Far left mainstream media?

 

 

 

 

yes, sorry kidda but the 1st thing any gov does when it gets in is put people in positions of power at all gov controlled media (eg bbc). this then filters down into mainstream media. also all political press releases are directly from the goverment themselves so the media have no choice but to print what is given to them.

 

 

Were these people in positions of power on holiday in and around the time of the Iraq dossier/Hutton enquiry? I didn't see the BBC doing the government any favours there.

[Guest Stevie]

As for yank telly you can look all you like, I've never watched The Soprano's I thought it would be about some fat singers in Italy before Jonny2J waxed lyrical about it, and I don't even know hand on heart what the other two are. I don't watch yank telly, honestly, the last yank telly I watched was one episode of 24 because it was advertised about a nuclear detonation in LA, and I like anything like that, but it was so wank, I just don't enjoy watching American television, it's bland, shite and repetitive. As for Spanish football, I watch as much Spanish football as English football because I love it, it's the most entertaining, skillful league in the world, and I've said that loads of times.

 

So if you think US TV is boring that makes banning it for millions okay?

 

I watch 3 programmes on the BBC and I haven't watched a single programme on ITV for at least 5 years - how about we ban that shite too?

 

The BNP anti-US TV has nothing to do with quality or appeal - its about cultural dilution - another racist argument of theirs.

They're not entirely going ban to it, they'd put a huge tarrif on it, meaning only the most desperate would see it. Anything which will see America's influence lessen here is for the benefit of this country. The way things are going kids will be saying sidewalk in normal conversation within 15 years, and people will be taking "rain checks", all in all it sickens me to the core.

[Renton 17986]

Of course I find some of their original policies deplorable, humane repatriation will never work, if they got in it would be a machine job outside their shops and forced on to vans down to Dover, but having said that do have good policies. Not least banning yank telly from our screens, their EU policy and limited coverage of all foreign sports. UKIP are the way forward and at 17% of the vote from 0% 10 years ago, we finally have hope that things will get better in terms of immigration.

 

The US telly one is a scream for starters - it comes from their underlying notion that "British" is perfect for everything and if we just remove all the outside influences, all our problems would magically disappear - its beyond stupid.

 

As for the EU as I've said until the BNP or the UKIP can actually explain how the economy would work without it, leaving is a non-starter.

 

How anyone can believe the crap UKIP spout is beyond me. Look at who they are ffs, they are basically the extreme right wing loony fringe of mainstream politics, extories with views that were too unpalatable for the tory party. White middle class little Englanders who are utterly corrupt and do not stand for anything positive.

 

As for the BNP, it's ironic, but rather than feel any sense of nationalistic pride in them it make me feel ashamed that nearly one million British people would like us to live in a fascist state. There's simply no excuse for using BNP as a protest vote either, none whatsoever.

 

 

whats wrong with being white, middle class and from england?? ffs you've just killed yer own argument by saying something racist.

i reckon you must have got this straight from the pen of Polly Toynbee, that well known, well balanced socialist who believes everyone should be equal as long as theres still champange and caviar for her and her mates.

whilst i agree that everyone should have they're say all your doing is exactly what you accuse the "far right" of doing which is belittling and criticising everyone who doesnt share your world view.

 

grow up man ffs. you should be more intelligent than to believe the propaganda the far left mainstream media feeds you.

 

'Far left mainstream media' - what a load of bollocks.

 

There's nothing wrong with being white and middle class or from England. What I have a problem with is people who are Little Englanders in the 21st century, which is what I stated if you bothered to read what I said. Narrow-minded xenophobes who want us out of Europe whatever the consequences, the same people who have some bizarre idea that they, historically the most priveleged in our society, are somehow victimised and 'aren't allowed to be proud of being English'. The leadership of UKIP and their policies are pathetic - IN MY OPINION. Now, how is any of that in any way racist, please explain?

 

Anyway, UKIP are essentially a one issue party that get some attention every 4 years come European election time. They'll fade into the background now for another 4 years, quite happily and quietly pocketing the maximum of their expenses while doing nothing of any value in the meantime. They're parasites at the end of the day, I'm glad our region isn't represented by them. How anyone thinks they could benefit the North East I don't know.

[Guest Stevie]

People vote for the BNP because they're too ignorant to realise what they really stand for. Even Nick Griffin has admitted their real policies are masked by empty rhetoric about caring for the working man etc. because they wouldn't get in if they actually told the truth.

 

A quick read through their last general election manifesto will tell you the type of nutters we're dealing with. They want to move parliament to the Isle of Man, 'invite' Eire back to the union by positioning tens of thousands of heavily armed soldiers on the border and impose ridiculous measures on the press while bleating on about 'freedom of speech'. It's actually beyond parody

 

Unfortunately, not only are they madcap but they're bloody nasty too. When senior members deny the holocaust, equate rape to force feeding a woman chocolate and believe eugenics is a fantastic idea it does become much harder to laugh at them.

 

you could be describing certain sects or religions who actually added bombing to the list. If I point the finger at them I get called racist so I will not.

 

That goes without saying. There are wankers in every walk of life, who follow every religion and come in every colour and I have no time for any of 'em. Muslims who want to replace our current system with sharia law are bellends of the highest order, as are Christian's who want to force their nutty religious guidelines on everyone. Fortunately these people are in a minority.

 

I don't understand how you could get called racist for that? Unless you're making a sweeping generalisation and saying that all Muzzies are terrorists which is patently bollocks?

 

Just for the record one of the largest hauls of bomb making equipment in Britain came from a suspected BNP bomb plot, so some members probably do add blowing shit up to the list

True but the 40% of British muslims who thought the 7/7 bombings as justifiable, will ensure that collectively many will always think of them as cunts.

[AgentAxeman 82]

Far left mainstream media?

 

 

 

 

yes, sorry kidda but the 1st thing any gov does when it gets in is put people in positions of power at all gov controlled media (eg bbc). this then filters down into mainstream media. also all political press releases are directly from the goverment themselves so the media have no choice but to print what is given to them.

 

 

Were these people in positions of power on holiday in and around the time of the Iraq dossier/Hutton enquiry? I didn't see the BBC doing the government any favours there.

 

 

really?? anyone taken the blame yet??

[AgentAxeman 82]

Of course I find some of their original policies deplorable, humane repatriation will never work, if they got in it would be a machine job outside their shops and forced on to vans down to Dover, but having said that do have good policies. Not least banning yank telly from our screens, their EU policy and limited coverage of all foreign sports. UKIP are the way forward and at 17% of the vote from 0% 10 years ago, we finally have hope that things will get better in terms of immigration.

 

The US telly one is a scream for starters - it comes from their underlying notion that "British" is perfect for everything and if we just remove all the outside influences, all our problems would magically disappear - its beyond stupid.

 

As for the EU as I've said until the BNP or the UKIP can actually explain how the economy would work without it, leaving is a non-starter.

 

How anyone can believe the crap UKIP spout is beyond me. Look at who they are ffs, they are basically the extreme right wing loony fringe of mainstream politics, extories with views that were too unpalatable for the tory party. White middle class little Englanders who are utterly corrupt and do not stand for anything positive.

 

As for the BNP, it's ironic, but rather than feel any sense of nationalistic pride in them it make me feel ashamed that nearly one million British people would like us to live in a fascist state. There's simply no excuse for using BNP as a protest vote either, none whatsoever.

 

 

whats wrong with being white, middle class and from england?? ffs you've just killed yer own argument by saying something racist.

i reckon you must have got this straight from the pen of Polly Toynbee, that well known, well balanced socialist who believes everyone should be equal as long as theres still champange and caviar for her and her mates.

whilst i agree that everyone should have they're say all your doing is exactly what you accuse the "far right" of doing which is belittling and criticising everyone who doesnt share your world view.

 

grow up man ffs. you should be more intelligent than to believe the propaganda the far left mainstream media feeds you.

 

'Far left mainstream media' - what a load of bollocks.

 

There's nothing wrong with being white and middle class or from England. What I have a problem with is people who are Little Englanders in the 21st century, which is what I stated if you bothered to read what I said. Narrow-minded xenophobes who want us out of Europe whatever the consequences, the same people who have some bizarre idea that they, historically the most priveleged in our society, are somehow victimised and 'aren't allowed to be proud of being English'. The leadership of UKIP and their policies are pathetic - IN MY OPINION. Now, how is any of that in any way racist, please explain?

 

Anyway, UKIP are essentially a one issue party that get some attention every 4 years come European election time. They'll fade into the background now for another 4 years, quite happily and quietly pocketing the maximum of their expenses while doing nothing of any value in the meantime. They're parasites at the end of the day, I'm glad our region isn't represented by them. How anyone thinks they could benefit the North East I don't know.

 

 

good point about ukip.

mind you i'm also struggling to figure out how the eu actually helps the north east??

 

oh and you did state "white, middle class little englanders"

its a bit specific...

 

 

but i take your point

Edited June 8, 2009 by AvatarAxeman

[NJS 3989]

They're not entirely going ban to it, they'd put a huge tarrif on it, meaning only the most desperate would see it. Anything which will see America's influence lessen here is for the benefit of this country. The way things are going kids will be saying sidewalk in normal conversation within 15 years, and people will be taking "rain checks", all in all it sickens me to the core.

 

Do you honestly think if all US TV (and of cource cinema and music) was banned tomorrow that in 15 years time kids would have returned to saying arse instead of ass?

 

This is a lesser version of the main issue - do people honestly believe that if all immigrants (since say 1948 so Phil the Greek can stay) and their families did take the BNP shilling and left that the country would be "better" in 10, 15, 50 years? How would this narrow the gap between rich and poor? How would it solve the white underclass problem?

 

For a lot of Mail readers I'm convinced that their should be perfect lives (ie they have everything they want) is only lit up by getting angry at the latest immigrant/Muslim "outrage". In that context if the UK became an immigrant free zone their lives would have no joy left and I assume mass suicide would ensue.

 

Fuck I knew I should have voted for them.

[Guest Stevie]

They're not entirely going ban to it, they'd put a huge tarrif on it, meaning only the most desperate would see it. Anything which will see America's influence lessen here is for the benefit of this country. The way things are going kids will be saying sidewalk in normal conversation within 15 years, and people will be taking "rain checks", all in all it sickens me to the core.

 

Do you honestly think if all US TV (and of cource cinema and music) was banned tomorrow that in 15 years time kids would have returned to saying arse instead of ass?

 

This is a lesser version of the main issue - do people honestly believe that if all immigrants (since say 1948 so Phil the Greek can stay) and their families did take the BNP shilling and left that the country would be "better" in 10, 15, 50 years? How would this narrow the gap between rich and poor? How would it solve the white underclass problem?

 

For a lot of Mail readers I'm convinced that their should be perfect lives (ie they have everything they want) is only lit up by getting angry at the latest immigrant/Muslim "outrage". In that context if the UK became an immigrant free zone their lives would have no joy left and I assume mass suicide would ensue.

 

Fuck I knew I should have voted for them.

How would it solve England's left wing problem? This question is about as relevant as yours. I haven't seen the white underclass bring the world's greatest city, and centre of the global financial melting pot to it's knees. I don't have anything against muslims myself individually, you get good and bad in all walks of life, but failure to wish to integrate should mean do one, no one can ever change my mind about that..."oh the English in Spain..." blah blah bollocks.

 

Back to the point about America, our cities are beginning to look like them, shopping "malls", 6 lane motorways "or should I say freeways", tall buildings everywhere (of should I say sky scapers) even fucking numbers and names on the back of footballers shirts! We have a weakened identity caused by external forces, and it's all going to fuck now, there's a myriad of reasons for it, yank media influence is just one, albeit a significant one.