StoneColdStephenIreland 74 Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 Are people seriously writing him off already even though he's only played 130 or so minutes of first team football for us? Give him a chance FFS he's only 20 and gets in the under 21 side aswell. Didn't he have a decent pre-season too, or one of the few players that did in the circumstances? Some people just seem to find any stick to beat a player with, especially when theyre rating Abeid higher than him when theyve never seen him play and played less football than him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajax_andy 0 Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 I really don't see how people can have much of an opinion at all about him yet. Other than friendlies and reserve games (in which it seems hes done well) he's managed two league cup games and about ten minutes in the league against the makems in about two years after suffering an absolutely horrendous injury.Admittedly he was poor against Scunthorpe but he certainly wasn't the only one (Ba for one looked like the game of football was comepletely new to him), and only people who were at Forrest (I'm yet to hear from a single person who was) saw what he was like there. But even if he was shite in both the cup games it's far too early to form a judgement yet alone suggest he'll never more than a Guthrie. There are it seems a few Everton fans that are saying that they never thought he was premiership standard when he was there but there are others who said the complete opposite and were guuted to lose him and not just because of how he left. A more balanced opinion of him I've seen more often than not is that he'll never make it as top class but will be a very useful squad member similar in quality to Leon Osman (personally I'd be more than happy with that). I would say that he faces a massive uphill battle to get in the team like. Tiote and Caybaye are pretty much untouchable at the minute and Jonas, Squidward and Marvaux are much more natural wingers. But let's give the lad a chance eh? Sorry mate but he'll never be as good as Leon Osman... Ossie is a good little player and would walk in to most mid table and below teams, Gosling is a very limited player and I dont know any Everton fans who were upset he left (other than because of the way he did)... In fact most fans were angry Moyes kept playing him over other players who had far more potential. I haven't seen anywhere near enough of him to make that judgement. You might be right, I have no way of knowing having seen next to nothing of him. I've seen other Everton (on Newcastle and Everton forums) fans agree with what you're saying and others disagreeing. I'm not arguing we have a good player or agreeing that we don't. I'm just saying we have to actually see him before making a judgement. Fair do's mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney 0 Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 Jesus, didn't realise he was only 20. So Everton fans were saying he wasn't good enough for the first team at 17/18? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoneColdStephenIreland 74 Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 Mistake on my part, he's 21, but the point still stands on how stupid it is to judge him after being out for more than a year and having less than 3 games playing for us and the age that he is at Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney 0 Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 I agree. Seems like he's knocking around a few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoCo85 0 Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 I really don't see how people can have much of an opinion at all about him yet. Other than friendlies and reserve games (in which it seems hes done well) he's managed two league cup games and about ten minutes in the league against the makems in about two years after suffering an absolutely horrendous injury.Admittedly he was poor against Scunthorpe but he certainly wasn't the only one (Ba for one looked like the game of football was comepletely new to him), and only people who were at Forrest (I'm yet to hear from a single person who was) saw what he was like there. But even if he was shite in both the cup games it's far too early to form a judgement yet alone suggest he'll never more than a Guthrie. There are it seems a few Everton fans that are saying that they never thought he was premiership standard when he was there but there are others who said the complete opposite and were guuted to lose him and not just because of how he left. A more balanced opinion of him I've seen more often than not is that he'll never make it as top class but will be a very useful squad member similar in quality to Leon Osman (personally I'd be more than happy with that). I would say that he faces a massive uphill battle to get in the team like. Tiote and Caybaye are pretty much untouchable at the minute and Jonas, Squidward and Marvaux are much more natural wingers. But let's give the lad a chance eh? I fully agree with what you are saying, I just have some reservations about the lad. Just don't think it's gonna help that he'll get limited gametime due to the strength of our midfield. But he does seem to have some determination about him, so if he keeps his head down who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaythesouthernmag 0 Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 Tiote/Cabaye nailed on starters and rightly so. Maybe get some time in FA/Carling cup, did I read somewhere he can play RB?? If so then maybe a chance there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gejon 2 Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 Really don't like this 'he is shit until proven otherwise', such a poor attitude. How about, "he hasn't impressed me so far but hopefully he gets better'. Slightly more balanced viewpoint? Unless he does something really special he isn't getting ahead of Tiote and Cabaye but pre-season he looked good and he is still getting over a long term injury. Ok so Everton fans didn't rate him as a youngster but many didn't rate Carroll when he was first coming through, quite a few thought Jose was a flop in his early days etc.. I think Gosling will probably be a good squad player who will grab his share of goals (scored for the reserves tonight btw). He will be a more mobile version of Nolan, won't offer a great deal in general play but will get around the pitch (not all that quickly) and will find himself in good shooting positons. IMO.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinRobin 9289 Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 I rather liked the way he ghosted on to the header from Shola (I think) late on against the scum. Rather like Nolan and just a shame he did not score. Did it last year as well, didn't he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lake Bells tits 1 Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 Really don't like this 'he is shit until proven otherwise', such a poor attitude. How about, "he hasn't impressed me so far but hopefully he gets better'.Slightly more balanced viewpoint? IMO.. No, that one is reserved for squidwash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney 0 Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 Tiote will be missing for the African Cup and will no doubt pick up the odd knock and suspension. Cabaye will likely miss a couple of games too. Hopefully we're not missing both at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lake Bells tits 1 Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 Tiote will be missing for the African Cup and will no doubt pick up the odd knock and suspension. Cabaye will likely miss a couple of games too. Hopefully we're not missing both at the same time. But but...that means Abeid will start Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoneColdStephenIreland 74 Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 Really don't like this 'he is shit until proven otherwise', such a poor attitude. How about, "he hasn't impressed me so far but hopefully he gets better'. Slightly more balanced viewpoint? Unless he does something really special he isn't getting ahead of Tiote and Cabaye but pre-season he looked good and he is still getting over a long term injury. Ok so Everton fans didn't rate him as a youngster but many didn't rate Carroll when he was first coming through, quite a few thought Jose was a flop in his early days etc.. I think Gosling will probably be a good squad player who will grab his share of goals (scored for the reserves tonight btw). He will be a more mobile version of Nolan, won't offer a great deal in general play but will get around the pitch (not all that quickly) and will find himself in good shooting positons. IMO.. Exactly, he's had virtually no playing time whatsoever and people are judging him already even though he's been out for more than a year. The same happened with Ba and is happening with Obertan, Santon will probably be the same. People just seem to jump on players backs for the sake of doing so without giving them time to adapt and recover from injuries etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney 0 Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 (edited) Being linked with a loan move to Doncaster by nufcfans and a few others on twitter. Doncaster are eager to have a look at Dan Gosling after Newcastle’s decision to send him out on loan. Midfielder Gosling, 21, has struggled to get into the Magpies’ high-flying team since returning from a long-term knee injury. And Toon boss Alan Pardew is keen for him to go to the Championship. New Donny boss Dean Saunders is hunting more Premier League talent to fire his club up the table. He has snapped up West Ham’s Herita Ilunga on loan after signing Pascal Chimbonda on a free. Edited October 5, 2011 by Barney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26590 Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 after signing Pascal Chimbonda on a free. Excellent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Manson 0 Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Do him good to get a run of first team games and prove his fitness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 12799 Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 He's barely played for 2 years so it's a good move for him and us, as said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monroe Transfer 0 Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Do him good to get a run of first team games and prove his fitness. Very much this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gejon 2 Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 Short term loan deal would be good to get him up and running again. We have enough options with Tiote, Cabaye, Guthrie and Abeid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 3997 Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Pardew talking him up in the Chron and whispers of him possibly getting a start. He always looks shite each time I see him. What do others think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 9062 Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Very mediocre central midfielder. I'm more worried that talking Gosling up makes it sound like we'd play a 4-4-2 to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 This thread is funny, ajax-andy was spot on btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 I think for where we were at the time Gosling was a decent signing for us, however the dynamics of the squad have moved on since then and IMO he has been left behind. When we buy now we seem to be looking towards players that seem to be quite proficient techincally and this isn't Gosling's game. In a way that gives him a niche in our squad, but he just doesn't seem good enough unfortunately. In an ideal world he should be loaned out somewhere to get some games, as let's not forget he's come back from a really bad injury and has never had the chance to gain any momentum since then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gejon 2 Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 I think for where we were at the time Gosling was a decent signing for us, however the dynamics of the squad have moved on since then and IMO he has been left behind. When we buy now we seem to be looking towards players that seem to be quite proficient techincally and this isn't Gosling's game. In a way that gives him a niche in our squad, but he just doesn't seem good enough unfortunately. In an ideal world he should be loaned out somewhere to get some games, as let's not forget he's come back from a really bad injury and has never had the chance to gain any momentum since then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1117 Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 This thread is funny, ajax-andy was spot on btw. Aye, my argument a year ago that it was too early to judge was still right but since that time he's shown himself to be nothing but a massive disapointment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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