RobinRobin 9247 Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 He is there for his speed and ability to cross the ball (I assume, as a winger). However, his speed seems to disappear when there is another player within 10 yards, he bottles 50/50s and he cannot cross (except with the outside of his wrong foot, it seems). He fails to close down in defence (compare with Jonas who does that constantly and still gets up the pitch to score). He just shows no interest in defending, even when he has given the ball away and then shows no real interest in attack if there is an opposition player around. Irrespective of who should have been put on the pitch in his place, the fact that he remained on the whole 90 minutes is a (IMHO) a real issue with Pardew's management. Frankly, I would rather have Routledge and 2/3m in Fatty's pockets for all the use he is. And he can leave his flicks and showboating to some time when it is appropriate - like at training when everyone else has left! In answer to the OP - yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitman 2188 Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 If he's that shit then presumably the answer would be to drop Squidward and play Guti right wing and Marveaux left wing. I assume Marveaux is fit enough now? I haven't seen Oberhead's last 2 games so can't comment, but he's looked pretty handy previously. Whilst it's too early to write him off, it sounds like there are worrying trends there. Regardless of his confidence levels he should work his socks off when we don't have the ball and get stuck in to tackles. Hopefully he'll sort himself out with more games and some positive coaching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammynb 2929 Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 If he's that shit then presumably the answer would be to drop Squidward and play Guti right wing and Marveaux left wing. I assume Marveaux is fit enough now? I haven't seen Oberhead's last 2 games so can't comment, but he's looked pretty handy previously. Whilst it's too early to write him off, it sounds like there are worrying trends there. Regardless of his confidence levels he should work his socks off when we don't have the ball and get stuck in to tackles. Hopefully he'll sort himself out with more games and some positive coaching. There were two or three instances where he's literally turned his back on the opposition player with the ball instead of going the extra yard to close them down and force a challenge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitman 2188 Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 If he's that shit then presumably the answer would be to drop Squidward and play Guti right wing and Marveaux left wing. I assume Marveaux is fit enough now? I haven't seen Oberhead's last 2 games so can't comment, but he's looked pretty handy previously. Whilst it's too early to write him off, it sounds like there are worrying trends there. Regardless of his confidence levels he should work his socks off when we don't have the ball and get stuck in to tackles. Hopefully he'll sort himself out with more games and some positive coaching. There were two or three instances where he's literally turned his back on the opposition player with the ball instead of going the extra yard to close them down and force a challenge. Unacceptable. Maybe he's been cursed? "I curse thee! Thou shalt have the head and heart of a squid!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 34615 Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Just seen him in Sainsburys on Gosforth high street. He's certainly crap with the self service till. His lass has got great bangers though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zico martin 84 Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Just seen him in Sainsburys on Gosforth high street. He's certainly crap with the self service till. His lass has got great bangers though. aren't top quality mams a prerequisite for any self respecting WAG these days? or any desirable female to be fair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monroe Transfer 0 Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Just seen him in Sainsburys on Gosforth high street. He's certainly crap with the self service till. His lass has got great bangers though. Did you happen to 'do a SMO' whilst you were there by any chance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 34615 Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Just seen him in Sainsburys on Gosforth high street. He's certainly crap with the self service till. His lass has got great bangers though. Did you happen to 'do a SMO' whilst you were there by any chance? Nah i was too occupied trying to get a look down her top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted October 5, 2011 Author Share Posted October 5, 2011 He is there for his speed and ability to cross the ball (I assume, as a winger). However, his speed seems to disappear when there is another player within 10 yards, he bottles 50/50s and he cannot cross (except with the outside of his wrong foot, it seems). He fails to close down in defence (compare with Jonas who does that constantly and still gets up the pitch to score). He just shows no interest in defending, even when he has given the ball away and then shows no real interest in attack if there is an opposition player around. Irrespective of who should have been put on the pitch in his place, the fact that he remained on the whole 90 minutes is a (IMHO) a real issue with Pardew's management. Frankly, I would rather have Routledge and 2/3m in Fatty's pockets for all the use he is. And he can leave his flicks and showboating to some time when it is appropriate - like at training when everyone else has left! In answer to the OP - yes Pretty fair observations imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted October 5, 2011 Author Share Posted October 5, 2011 If he's that shit then presumably the answer would be to drop Squidward and play Guti right wing and Marveaux left wing. I assume Marveaux is fit enough now? I haven't seen Oberhead's last 2 games so can't comment, but he's looked pretty handy previously. Whilst it's too early to write him off, it sounds like there are worrying trends there. Regardless of his confidence levels he should work his socks off when we don't have the ball and get stuck in to tackles. Hopefully he'll sort himself out with more games and some positive coaching. There were two or three instances where he's literally turned his back on the opposition player with the ball instead of going the extra yard to close them down and force a challenge. Unacceptable. Maybe he's been cursed? "I curse thee! Thou shalt have the head and heart of a squid!" The Nostromo is coming into orbit next week, perhaps that will perk the fucker up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lake Bells tits 1 Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 If he's that shit then presumably the answer would be to drop Squidward and play Guti right wing and Marveaux left wing. I assume Marveaux is fit enough now? I haven't seen Oberhead's last 2 games so can't comment, but he's looked pretty handy previously. Whilst it's too early to write him off, it sounds like there are worrying trends there. Regardless of his confidence levels he should work his socks off when we don't have the ball and get stuck in to tackles. Hopefully he'll sort himself out with more games and some positive coaching. There were two or three instances where he's literally turned his back on the opposition player with the ball instead of going the extra yard to close them down and force a challenge. Unacceptable. Maybe he's been cursed? "I curse thee! Thou shalt have the head and heart of a squid!" The Nostromo is coming into orbit next week, perhaps that will perk the fucker up. Can someone please do a Alien/obersquid morph? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jusoda Kid 1 Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Pancrate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 He is there for his speed and ability to cross the ball (I assume, as a winger). However, his speed seems to disappear when there is another player within 10 yards, he bottles 50/50s and he cannot cross (except with the outside of his wrong foot, it seems). He fails to close down in defence (compare with Jonas who does that constantly and still gets up the pitch to score). He just shows no interest in defending, even when he has given the ball away and then shows no real interest in attack if there is an opposition player around. Irrespective of who should have been put on the pitch in his place, the fact that he remained on the whole 90 minutes is a (IMHO) a real issue with Pardew's management. Frankly, I would rather have Routledge and 2/3m in Fatty's pockets for all the use he is. And he can leave his flicks and showboating to some time when it is appropriate - like at training when everyone else has left! In answer to the OP - yes Pretty fair observations imo. You'd honestly rather have Routledge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lake Bells tits 1 Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Im not sure. and that in itself says alot about Obersquid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monroe Transfer 0 Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Pretty sure he wasn't asking you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lake Bells tits 1 Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 And I wasnt asking you, you daft cunterhead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted October 5, 2011 Author Share Posted October 5, 2011 He is there for his speed and ability to cross the ball (I assume, as a winger). However, his speed seems to disappear when there is another player within 10 yards, he bottles 50/50s and he cannot cross (except with the outside of his wrong foot, it seems). He fails to close down in defence (compare with Jonas who does that constantly and still gets up the pitch to score). He just shows no interest in defending, even when he has given the ball away and then shows no real interest in attack if there is an opposition player around. Irrespective of who should have been put on the pitch in his place, the fact that he remained on the whole 90 minutes is a (IMHO) a real issue with Pardew's management. Frankly, I would rather have Routledge and 2/3m in Fatty's pockets for all the use he is. And he can leave his flicks and showboating to some time when it is appropriate - like at training when everyone else has left! In answer to the OP - yes Pretty fair observations imo. You'd honestly rather have Routledge? Apart from that bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 9013 Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 He is there for his speed and ability to cross the ball (I assume, as a winger). However, his speed seems to disappear when there is another player within 10 yards, he bottles 50/50s and he cannot cross (except with the outside of his wrong foot, it seems). He fails to close down in defence (compare with Jonas who does that constantly and still gets up the pitch to score). He just shows no interest in defending, even when he has given the ball away and then shows no real interest in attack if there is an opposition player around. Irrespective of who should have been put on the pitch in his place, the fact that he remained on the whole 90 minutes is a (IMHO) a real issue with Pardew's management. Frankly, I would rather have Routledge and 2/3m in Fatty's pockets for all the use he is. And he can leave his flicks and showboating to some time when it is appropriate - like at training when everyone else has left! In answer to the OP - yes Pretty fair observations imo. You'd honestly rather have Routledge? Apart from that bit. What about the training ground being the only place for tricks and flicks? Your man Bafra might object? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted October 5, 2011 Author Share Posted October 5, 2011 He is there for his speed and ability to cross the ball (I assume, as a winger). However, his speed seems to disappear when there is another player within 10 yards, he bottles 50/50s and he cannot cross (except with the outside of his wrong foot, it seems). He fails to close down in defence (compare with Jonas who does that constantly and still gets up the pitch to score). He just shows no interest in defending, even when he has given the ball away and then shows no real interest in attack if there is an opposition player around. Irrespective of who should have been put on the pitch in his place, the fact that he remained on the whole 90 minutes is a (IMHO) a real issue with Pardew's management. Frankly, I would rather have Routledge and 2/3m in Fatty's pockets for all the use he is. And he can leave his flicks and showboating to some time when it is appropriate - like at training when everyone else has left! In answer to the OP - yes Pretty fair observations imo. You'd honestly rather have Routledge? Apart from that bit. What about the training ground being the only place for tricks and flicks? Your man Bafra might object? He's allowed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 3985 Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4227 Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 Benefit of doubt given but I just dont think hes got another gear could do with giving Ben Arfa or Marveaux more game time instead really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTF 6190 Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 Might be right about the gears. Shouldn't matter too much though just has to take it down a notch then burst at top pace. Wasn't great again, but wasn't shite either. Somewhere in-between with the biggest detractor for me his reluctanc to get immediately stuck in when he turns over possession. At that age that should be able to be coached into him, a great start would be to sub him off and tell him it's because he's not doing his share defensively. We've definitely got other options and to be fair Obertan has been given a good chance to show what he can do now it should be Marveaux who gets his chance. Then a proper assessment could be made about who deserves to start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin S. Assilleekunt 1 Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 If he'd laid the ball off to Simpson instead of his dragged shot, it would have been a prime opportunity to whip a ball across the box as Best and Ba had made runs. Makes the wrong decision in possession every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hostile_statue 0 Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 Wasn't great again, but wasn't shite either. That's too kind. I've yet to see him beat his defender and he doesn't track back. I don't really see why he should be in the starting XI. He's purposeless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted October 16, 2011 Author Share Posted October 16, 2011 Wasn't great again, but wasn't shite either. That's too kind. I've yet to see him beat his defender and he doesn't track back. I don't really see why he should be in the starting XI. He's purposeless. Needs to be benched. I'd try Santon there. Played there before iirc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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