ewerk 26499 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 And it continues in the Mail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30470 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 Loads of the readers lapping that shit up will be living in Spain / Portugal / France as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 Is this real? I mean Spain? Wouldn't last 5 min against the British Navy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 14074 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 That's not really the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 (edited) State of the art. (Dodgy engine mind). Type 45. Edited April 5, 2017 by Park Life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 That's not really the point. Let's do a sea battle before Brexit talks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 14639 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 State of the art. (Dodgy engine mind). Yeah they're great, when turning port or starboard at anything over 20 knots the T45s entire essential services, ships safety and weapons systems shut down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 (edited) Russian destroyers can't turn on all systems at once even when standing still. Systems testing normally takes a couple of years to smooth out. The fact remains Type 45 has a better sensor package than anything on the water anywhere. A potent mix of Raytheon and BAE's best and latest tech. Can take on multiple air and seaborne threats simultaneously. Edited April 5, 2017 by Park Life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 14639 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 The first one was commissioned a decade ago, it's still a parcel of shit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 (edited) ''Type 45 is a very expensive machine because PAAMS and Samson are as cutting edge as military technology gets, but to do it's job well it needs them. Bear in mind that as fast as your own defenses evolve, the possible weapons you will face are evolving even faster. Buying last years technology just won't cut it if you want to be able to face up all comers. How embarrassing it would be if we simply bought off the shelf and then got our arse handed to us by a belligerent third world dictator who starves his people so he can buy the latest and more fearsome hypersonic seaskimming anti-ship missiles on the market today? Tell you what, why don't we spend a few pounds stirling to make sure we get the best radar and missile system possible, and in the process give a huge boost the UKs technological capabilty and knowledge economy, all so that we can protect our fleet of big fat assets from Sunburns and Granits and whatever else may be coming our way.It definately has great advantages over 70s and 80s designed Aegis systems. These have already been broadly alluded to earlier.'' Anti-ship missiles is the biggest threat to a slow moving destroyer. Type 45 can engage 16 threats simultaneously. Edited April 5, 2017 by Park Life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 Irrespective of whether or not we could take Spain in a fight, these people have been our allies! What the fuck are we doing man, this is some of the worst diplomacy I've ever seen. And the fucking daily mail needs to shut this shit off, it's done enough damage already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 (edited) Irrespective of whether or not we could take Spain in a fight, these people have been our allies! What the fuck are we doing man, this is some of the worst diplomacy I've ever seen. And the fucking daily mail needs to shut this shit off, it's done enough damage already. No. We have to teach Spain a lesson. End of. These fuking orange growers are taking the piss mate. Annex the Canary Islands! Edited April 5, 2017 by Park Life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30470 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 Irrespective of whether or not we could take Spain in a fight, these people have been our allies! What the fuck are we doing man, this is some of the worst diplomacy I've ever seen. And the fucking daily mail needs to shut this shit off, it's done enough damage already. And perhaps we could show a little concern for the people who live in Gibraltar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 Rejected Spanish rule twice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3212 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 Rejected Spanish rule twice. They shouldn't have moved to an enclave then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 Aye, I think Gibraltar is pro-UK tbf. I don't think we should return it (while they want to be British) but there has to be a better way through than this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 14074 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 They're pro-EU membership too. You don't always get what you want in life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 This is true. 96% wasn't it? If they were contested by Germany I'd abandon the UK, but Spain is a bit of a basket case... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30470 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 The point I was trying to make is that Spain could make it canny awkward for anyone living there if we continue to play the macho dickhead card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 Aye. We're definitely going to continue playing it though, so I'll guess we'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26499 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 Tbf though, didn't they start it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30470 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 I did like the Queen's response to Juan Carlos that time when he complained about Charles and Di starting their honeymoon there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anorthernsoul 1221 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 Juncker's face Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26499 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 Nice to see him turning up to his day job for a change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anorthernsoul 1221 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 Not sure how much pissing them all off will help with negotiations mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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