The Fish 9034 Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 Quarter past seven on Christmas Day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4235 Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 Carl Jenkinson anyone? Likely to be on his way out of Arsenal in jan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoneColdStephenIreland 74 Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 (edited) RB isn't he? Not sure if he'll be much of an improvement on Anita or Yedlin. Edited December 30, 2016 by StoneColdStephenIreland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 Apparently we're in for Loftus-Cheek on loan. Â http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/newcastle-united-transfers-ruben-loftus-12376744 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12480 Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 Apparently we're in for Loftus-Cheek on loan. Â http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/newcastle-united-transfers-ruben-loftus-12376744 That would be class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 Haven't seen anything of him. Â Is he more in the Shelvey or #10 mould? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 9034 Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 Haven't seen anything of him. Â Is he more in the Shelvey or #10 mould? Â From what I've seen, neither of those, thought he was more like a Vieira/Toure. Â Asking a Chelsea fan I know to clear it up. So far he says "Bit of an enigma. Very special player but yet to find a position. Brilliant on the ball tho", "would be good for both parties. He needs regular football", "Way too good at youth level. Hasn't played enough first team football to progress imo." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12480 Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 Aye they've got to loan the kid out tbh, he's never been loaned out before which is crackers when you consider it's Chelsea. As Fish said from what I've seen of him (albeit extremely limited) he always seemed that type of player, good range of passing, calm on the ball, but very raw, he's a big lad as well so should handle people trying to rough him up. Â I get that they want him at the PL level but it makes a lot of sense to loan him to a side like us, I know I'm biased but he's never played frequently so it's far from guaranteed he'd get games for a PL side, he'd probably end up at a struggling side which is crap to walk into he'd barely get time to prove himself and if he didn't they'd drop him in favour of anyone else. In contrast with us he'd be managed by Rafa Benitez, in a confident side, he'd get a good run of games and there'd be less pressure on him. Â I was saying to someone the other day we should point to Brendan Galloway, he chose West Brom over us because they were in the PL, he has played 3 games and is being managed by Tony Pulis, if he had come to us there is a very good chance he'd have started most games as his main competition for the left back spot would have been Dummett. It's a loan and it's meant to get you experience, there's no point warming the bench at some hovel in Birmingham and having any talent/ability coached out of you by Pulis when you could be getting regular games and coaching from a title winning manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 Cheers lads. Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 9034 Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 Aye they've got to loan the kid out tbh, he's never been loaned out before which is crackers when you consider it's Chelsea. As Fish said from what I've seen of him (albeit extremely limited) he always seemed that type of player, good range of passing, calm on the ball, but very raw, he's a big lad as well so should handle people trying to rough him up. Â I get that they want him at the PL level but it makes a lot of sense to loan him to a side like us, I know I'm biased but he's never played frequently so it's far from guaranteed he'd get games for a PL side, he'd probably end up at a struggling side which is crap to walk into he'd barely get time to prove himself and if he didn't they'd drop him in favour of anyone else. In contrast with us he'd be managed by Rafa Benitez, in a confident side, he'd get a good run of games and there'd be less pressure on him. Â I was saying to someone the other day we should point to Brendan Galloway, he chose West Brom over us because they were in the PL, he has played 3 games and is being managed by Tony Pulis, if he had come to us there is a very good chance he'd have started most games as his main competition for the left back spot would have been Dummett. It's a loan and it's meant to get you experience, there's no point warming the bench at some hovel in Birmingham and having any talent/ability coached out of you by Pulis when you could be getting regular games and coaching from a title winning manager. Â Good points. Â Also, if Chelsea want a central midfielder who is used to facing physical sides who're set up to defend, who's used to playing in front of a huge and demanding fanbase, who's used to rotation, one that's been put through 6 months of a physically demanding season against men... where else could he go? Â Haven't watched this but this is one of those brilliantly edited, delightfully scored youtube videos; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 5955 Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 Rumours we've recalled Sammy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Hog 336 Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 Rumours we've recalled Sammy  Recalled? His loan is up on Monday and Bolton are dragging their feet over extending it.  http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/14994941.Wolves_and_Newcastle_United_waiting_on_Wanderers_for_Ameobi_and_Henry_loan_deals/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12480 Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 Good points. Â Also, if Chelsea want a central midfielder who is used to facing physical sides who're set up to defend, who's used to playing in front of a huge and demanding fanbase, who's used to rotation, one that's been put through 6 months of a physically demanding season against men... where else could he go? Â Aye the move would suit both sides, hopefully Conte sees all of this and chooses us over the PL dregs. I just don't see the point in loaning a young lad to a Premier League side simply because they're in the Premier League, of course you have lads like Ake who are getting a lot out of their loan but we'd suit Loftus-Cheek's current circumstances more than any of the stragglers imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LooneyToony 41 Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 Loftus-Cheek? He's someone I'd like to have on the squad permanently and see if he progresses. My gut tells me to go after someone more proven, as hard as that would be for a January transfer.  Oh, and btw. Wishing yee aal hev a Happy New Year.  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Hog 336 Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 Cleverly on loan seems to be the current link http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/newcastle-transfers-magpies-submit-loan-12391304 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26550 Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 Not one I'd want for next season but a loan deal is fairly low risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 5955 Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 Better than Colback but I'd prefer Delph, Mcarthy or Loftus-Cheek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19878 Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 Not a fan of cleverly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12480 Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 Aye I'd be happy enough with a loan for him as at the very least it would cover the last few games of Shelvey's ban but he's fairly injury prone, we need more than 1 in mind since we're going to be losing Atsu and Diame so any 2 from the ones SEW listed would be canny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anorthernsoul 1221 Posted January 1, 2017 Author Share Posted January 1, 2017 Cleverly is SHITE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimaad22 3489 Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Cleverly is terrible, not sure what he'll be adding to the squad. Colback already has the useless headless chicken runner slot filled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 14655 Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Cleverly would be among the best players in this division if he were to drop down, think people are forgetting how err "good" Shelvey was last season..Ckeverly has also played for Watford for a season when the got promoted on loan from man utd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimaad22 3489 Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Shelvey had always shown potential though, he had question marks over consistency and attitude. Cleverly is a once highly rated youngster from Man Utd, there were a dozen of them each season in those days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 13883 Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 I agree - players like Cleverley are ten a penny & like many former Man United players before him he's lived off past hype even if it was somewhat undeserved. Â However - I think he'd be fine in this division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 14655 Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Cleverly on loan isn't a risk at this level, he's frankly ideal. Not sure what people's expectations are for this window but I'd be a bit surprised if we're looking to do better...we may have a champions league standard manager but we still have a barrow boy owner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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