strawb 3720 Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 Foreign leagues move games to help their teams progress, we move games to make Sky happy with fuck all regard given to European performance. Other leagues teams prioritise cup competitions as they have a chance of winning them, whereas they don't usually have a chance of winning the league (Spain, Germany and Italy are becoming monopolies). English teams prioritise finishing in the top four because of the money it brings, fucking Man Utd sat out a cup competition all together a few years back! There is also a lack of good scouting and coaching in England with regards to necessary evils of the game that are required to do well in Europe, taking the ball to the corner, tactical fouls, even as simple as good defending and staying in games to give yourself a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4263 Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 Liverpool through with a 3-1 win. Sevilla won 5-3 overall though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anorthernsoul 1221 Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 (edited) Doesn't really make much sense as foreign players (non-British) players are winning European titles abroad but they're not winning them here? Imo it's the failure is okay attitude over here and the pursuit of averageness in the English game. You've contradicted yourself there, misunderstood my post and then given weight to what I'm saying. There's more players at the top clubs in England than any of the other major leagues that are more than happy to pick up a big wage without the drive and the passion to win anything. Edited May 5, 2016 by Anorthernsoul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anorthernsoul 1221 Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 As in MERCENARY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 12891 Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 Less stringent drug tests in Spain. Possibly. Everyone ignoring this when it's entirely accurate that Dr Fuentes is bombing around Spain with a suitcase full of performance enhancers like a drug dispensing Paddington Bear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 17020 Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 Everyone ignoring this when it's entirely accurate that Dr Fuentes is bombing around Spain with a suitcase full of performance enhancers like a drug dispensing Paddington Bear Look at LOLerpool. Sakho testing positive for a drug, the fucking nonces on BBC saying its 'not a performance enhancing drug' it was a fat burner, i.e a diuretic, which if used in cycling and boxing is used to mask other drugs. Yet the cluess cunts on Radio5 dont see that connection in Football. Origi at Liverpool saying he has put 5kg of lean muscle on in a short period. Fuck me, he must run on avg of 10km a game, yet can put on 5kg of lean muscle without doping, fuck off. Leicester have a doctor working for them who helped Team Mapei dope during their successful years. Its fucking rife in our own country let alone the rest of Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12496 Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 Didn't Kolo Toure get clipped for using a 'fat burner' too at Liverpool? Funny that the pundits aren't bothering to remark on that similarity. I think football is in the dark ages a bit when it comes to acknowledging that there is PED use, I've even heard people say things like "well it's not like you need to be built like a bodybuilder to play footy is it?" as a shit argument for why it can't be happening they obviously get flustered when you bring up how rife it is in other aerobic sports like cycling. Agreed that the Origi claims seem suspect as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McFaul 35 Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 Even still, Spain is killing it currently. There's a common perception that there are only two strong teams in Spain with a huge gulf, Atletico are singularly breaking that perception but even going beyond them there's a lot more depth in la liga than many realise. They're a lot more economical with their spending, the English league is I think at its weakest point in a long long time which is made even worse by the average wage bills which are the highest of all the leagues. Some good points but it is still ranked number 2 in Europe. I've watched the Australia League a few times, I guarantee now if Northampton Town (champions of England's 4th tier) were in it, they'd win it by 25 points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTF 6365 Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 Some good points but it is still ranked number 2 in Europe. I've watched the Australia League a few times, I guarantee now if Northampton Town (champions of England's 4th tier) were in it, they'd win it by 25 points. I'd never make a case for the Australian league teams regularly competing with even the top sides in the championship, beyond that though we're splitting hairs I'd say. The Premier League should be looking to Spain and Germany and working at the grass roots level to improve their home grown players. Years of bringing in foreign talent has boosted the global poularity of the league and has brought about big money. Sadly that in combination with money hungry agents has resulted in teams with more than their share of mercenaries denying the opportunities for local players. I don't know how that can be turned around in a hurry but I really hope it can be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McFaul 35 Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 Fair enough mate. Why would you want the "pomms" to win though? I cheered every goal when the Krauts beat you 4-0 in the last World Cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@yourservice 67 Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 I love Mugrighter, me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26786 Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 Not as much as he HATES Australia though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTF 6365 Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 Fair enough mate. Why would you want the "pomms" to win though? I cheered every goal when the Krauts beat you 4-0 in the last World Cup. I want the premier league to improve in quality. A by product of that will be a better international side. I've got an attachment to the English game though Newcastle. I was at that 4-0 game. What a tactical disaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bizza 105 Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 Man U are fucking rank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 How can they be this bad? Hopefully different side comes out second half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 18030 Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 One knife edge at the riverside. Odd to think boro are in a much better league position than us. Oops, Brighton down to 10 men, very harsh imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trophyshy 6443 Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 Get in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gpirlo68 0 Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 (edited) Mata! Norwich 0 man utd 1 Edited May 7, 2016 by gpirlo68 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bizza 105 Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 Get in! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 18030 Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 Boro promoted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trophyshy 6443 Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 norwich fucked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26786 Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 Two point clear of Norwich now with the same games played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 20132 Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 Norwich have got Everton and Watford left though, so thankfully we have got that cushion. They could still pick up some points in their final two. We have to beat villa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 mackems losing wahoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 Equalised Bastards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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