ewerk 6,730 Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 1 hour ago, Tom said: What an absurd country. All this emotion pouring out, people nearly crying but the life of most Americans won’t change at all. The door is ajar for “Smart” Trump, if such a person exists. Have you learned nothing from Corbyn? Link to post Share on other sites
Renton 2,176 Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 I don't know if America can be healed. It depends whether Trump is the symptom or the cause. If it's the latter, maybe there is a chance. But I think it's the former. Scratch the usually genteel face of American people, underneath there seems to be an undercurrent of pure hatred and racism. I sometimes think it was Obama who initiated over the current problems, a very large minority just couldn't accept a black man as POTUS. The US is undoubtedly a great country, it has the resources to stay so. I genuinely hope it can because if the US is fucked we all are. Link to post Share on other sites
Tom 3,219 Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 13 minutes ago, ewerk said: Have you learned nothing from Corbyn? Would you mind expanding on that? Link to post Share on other sites
PaddockLad 2,876 Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 7 minutes ago, Renton said: I don't know if America can be healed. It depends whether Trump is the symptom or the cause. If it's the latter, maybe there is a chance. But I think it's the former. Scratch the usually genteel face of American people, underneath there seems to be an undercurrent of pure hatred and racism. I sometimes think it was Obama who initiated over the current problems, a very large minority just couldn't accept a black man as POTUS. The US is undoubtedly a great country, it has the resources to stay so. I genuinely hope it can because if the US is fucked we all are. What started all this for me was the "birther" movement. It had actually died a death when Trump revived it on 2011 by saying his birth certificate was fake. Even with nonsense like this Trump lost the popular vote twice. That tells me its a exceedingly vocal minority, but that's still probably 1-2 million.... Link to post Share on other sites
ewerk 6,730 Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 18 minutes ago, Tom said: Would you mind expanding on that? H a v e y o u l e a r n e d n o t h i n g f r o m C o r b y n ? 7 Link to post Share on other sites
Tom 3,219 Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 53 minutes ago, ewerk said: H a v e y o u l e a r n e d n o t h i n g f r o m C o r b y n ? F U C K O F F 6 Link to post Share on other sites
Rayvin 1,343 Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 2 hours ago, Renton said: I don't know if America can be healed. It depends whether Trump is the symptom or the cause. If it's the latter, maybe there is a chance. But I think it's the former. Scratch the usually genteel face of American people, underneath there seems to be an undercurrent of pure hatred and racism. I sometimes think it was Obama who initiated over the current problems, a very large minority just couldn't accept a black man as POTUS. The US is undoubtedly a great country, it has the resources to stay so. I genuinely hope it can because if the US is fucked we all are. I can't recall the numbers now but it's worth noting that a reasonable percentage of working class white people who voted for Trump, also voted for Obama. Clinton lost their votes. So it either has a woman problem, or it has a rage at the status quo and general shitness of life problem. I mean it has a race problem too, clearly Link to post Share on other sites
Kevin Carr's Gloves 556 Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 48 minutes ago, Rayvin said: I can't recall the numbers now but it's worth noting that a reasonable percentage of working class white people who voted for Trump, also voted for Obama. Clinton lost their votes. So it either has a woman problem, or it has a rage at the status quo and general shitness of life problem. I mean it has a race problem too, clearly Also African Americans didn’t vote for Clinton. A lot of that had to do with the 3 strikes and out rule Link to post Share on other sites
Anorthernsoul 861 Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 Greed at the very top has always been the problem in the US and always will, same for everywhere in the world really. The money men pull the strings, even the people with big ideas for the growth of humanity are held back by the paymasters. Sad but true. At least Biden seems like his heart is in the right place. Link to post Share on other sites
Anorthernsoul 861 Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 (edited) 2 hours ago, Kevin Carr's Gloves said: Also African Americans didn’t vote for Clinton. A lot of that had to do with the 3 strikes and out rule The majority of Florida voted Trump, that majority is Hispanic. Work that one out! Edited January 21 by Anorthernsoul Link to post Share on other sites
RobinRobin 492 Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 1 hour ago, Anorthernsoul said: The majority of Florida voted Trump, that majority is Hispanic. Work that one out! That's the Cuban ex-pat influence. They believed the communist argument, which would have (apparently) led to a rapprochement with Cuba and all that would entail. Also, probably a lot of them (especially the undocumented ones) probably work for him. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
ewerk 6,730 Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 So much good stuff... 2 Link to post Share on other sites
sammynb 484 Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 14 hours ago, Renton said: It depends whether Trump is the symptom or the cause. He's only a symptom, the cause is the same as it is in the UK and here in Australia, cunty Rupert. It looks like Lachlan and sister are happy to continue dad's legacy and spread the lies and bullshit. Link to post Share on other sites
Renton 2,176 Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 28 minutes ago, Sonatine said: First deep fake of the Biden era! Just looked up and that was actually Barry from Eastenders singing at the 2014 World Indoor Bowls championship in Great Yarmouth, a much more significant occasion. 4 Link to post Share on other sites
Dr Gloom 3,160 Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 8 hours ago, Anorthernsoul said: The majority of Florida voted Trump, that majority is Hispanic. Work that one out! not the mexican community in florida is it Link to post Share on other sites
Kid Dynamite 1,264 Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 2 hours ago, Gemmill said: What a divvy 😂 Link to post Share on other sites
Dr Gloom 3,160 Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 biden means business. good news for US workers' rights Link to post Share on other sites
Alex 6,129 Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 3 hours ago, Renton said: First deep fake of the Biden era! Just looked up and that was actually Barry from Eastenders singing at the 2014 World Indoor Bowls championship in Great Yarmouth, a much more significant occasion. Bigger crowd too Link to post Share on other sites
Gemmill 2,920 Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 Reading the reports about Q Anon people today. They believed right up until the second Biden was sworn in that it wasn't gonna happen. That Trump was going to rise up. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew 906 Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 7 minutes ago, Gemmill said: Reading the reports about Q Anon people today. They believed right up until the second Biden was sworn in that it wasn't gonna happen. That Trump was going to rise up. like his entrance music was going to come on just before Biden raised his hand and George W Bush was going to start yelling "bah gawd thats DONALD TRUMPS MUSIC" 5 Link to post Share on other sites
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