wykikitoon 28542 Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 They have pretty much the same mid as a few years ago. They have just neglected it and Klopp hasn't refreshed it at all. Bin dippers always banging on he doesn't get support. Net spend he's spent over £200m. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 12574 Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 15 minutes ago, wykikitoon said: They have pretty much the same mid as a few years ago. They have just neglected it and Klopp hasn't refreshed it at all. Bin dippers always banging on he doesn't get support. Net spend he's spent over £200m. Yeah I've noticed this story about how Liverpool are doing it the right way, unlike those awful awful Manchester clubs who're just buying success... They've spent a fortune, they've tapped up players, they've gazumped rivals, and all the shady shit that elite clubs do. They also did it from a position of relative strength anyway, so they're not some underdog story, or owt. Especially as that relative strength was injected into their veins before their previous era of domestic dominance. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 39233 Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 9 minutes ago, The Fish said: Yeah I've noticed this story about how Liverpool are doing it the right way, unlike those awful awful Manchester clubs who're just buying success... They've spent a fortune, they've tapped up players, they've gazumped rivals, and all the shady shit that elite clubs do. They also did it from a position of relative strength anyway, so they're not some underdog story, or owt. Especially as that relative strength was injected into their veins before their previous era of domestic dominance. There's eight other clubs who have spent more than them over the last five years. Yes they've spent money but not the fortunes you're talking about. It's an average of £43m a season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 12574 Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 1 minute ago, ewerk said: There's eight other clubs who have spent more than them over the last five years. Yes they've spent money but not the fortunes you're talking about. It's an average of £43m a season. In the last 10 seasons they've spent just shy of a billion. Only Arsenal, Chelsea, Man Utd and Man City have had a bigger outlay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 39233 Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 17 minutes ago, The Fish said: In the last 10 seasons they've spent just shy of a billion. Only Arsenal, Chelsea, Man Utd and Man City have had a bigger outlay. In the last 10 years they have a net spend of £338m. They have been outspent by Arsenal, Villa, Chelsea, Everton, Man City, Man U, Spurs, Wolves, West Ham and even little old us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 12574 Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 11 minutes ago, ewerk said: In the last 10 years they have a net spend of £338m. They have been outspent by Arsenal, Villa, Chelsea, Everton, Man City, Man U, Spurs, Wolves, West Ham and even little old us. Right, and that's good business, but the point I was making is that they've paid out nigh on a BILLION pounds on players in the last ten years. And they were finishing on average 3rd. They aren't an under dog, they haven't done it the hard way, they've bought success just as much as the rest of the Elite. Yes, they've made good deals, getting good money back on the likes of Suarez, Coutinho (c£200m from Barcelona), Sterling and Benteke (c£90m for the pair). But the thing I'm saying is that there's a narrative that, plucky little Liverpool are challenging the big spenders with a shoestring budget. This is bollocks, they've spent nearly a billion pounds on players in the last 10 years, to build upon a team that was already up there challenging anyway. They're no different to Chelsea, Man City, Man Utd and the rest of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 39233 Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 I don't think anyone is painting them as the plucky underdogs. Gross spend it irrelevant, net spend is the key here. And by that metric they've competed at the top end of the table while spending mid-table money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 12383 Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 The celebrations at this one were utterly mental 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spongebob toonpants 5193 Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 Best goalmouth scramble ever 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 63200 Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 From the covid times. He read this out on Buxton's podcast and it fucking killed me. "Harry blinked" 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 11894 Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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OTF 10613 Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 On 14/10/2022 at 01:14, ewerk said: In the last 10 years they have a net spend of £338m. They have been outspent by Arsenal, Villa, Chelsea, Everton, Man City, Man U, Spurs, Wolves, West Ham and even little old us. Analysing only on net spend is not very useful tbh, need to account for sales and also wages. Liverpool pay massive wages and spend big on incoming players; the only team in recent history to have broken the mould of spend more on players (transfer and wages) to win things is Leicester. Liverpool have been more effective than other teams in turning that spend into results (namely Manure) but they've not been exceptionally good. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTF 10613 Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 On 14/10/2022 at 02:18, ewerk said: I don't think anyone is painting them as the plucky underdogs. Gross spend it irrelevant, net spend is the key here. And by that metric they've competed at the top end of the table while spending mid-table money. Let's just conveniently forget that their wage bill is fucking massive (easily more than double ours) and has consistently been in the top 3 in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 39233 Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 After hearing Klopp’s whinging they can 100% fuck off. Quote I heard now that at Newcastle somebody [sporting director Dan Ashworth] said: ‘There is no ceiling for this club.’ Yes, he is right. He is absolutely right. There is no ceiling for Newcastle. Congratulations, but some other clubs have ceilings.” 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 7478 Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 10 minutes ago, ewerk said: After hearing Klopp’s whinging they can 100% fuck off. 2 games from a quadruple last season and he's talking about ceilings because they've been shite in the last two months wanker. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 11894 Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 26 minutes ago, Andrew said: 2 games from a quadruple last season and he's talking about ceilings because they've been shite in the last two months wanker. He’s become an über-bellend. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 22498 Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 Not seen this before…. David B.N. (before Newcastle ) 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMXXVIII 1296 Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 19 hours ago, Gemmill said: From the covid times. He read this out on Buxton's podcast and it fucking killed me. "Harry blinked" Just reading it had me chuckling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMXXVIII 1296 Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 1 hour ago, PaddockLad said: Not seen this before…. David B.N. (before Newcastle ) I may have dreamt it but didn't he score a header from a corner against Arsenal for Paris? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 15528 Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMXXVIII 1296 Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 1 minute ago, Tom said: 5th after Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 15528 Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 I've just never seen the "top half" go up to 11 before 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 12383 Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 I get the point you're making now 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spongebob toonpants 5193 Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 2 hours ago, PaddockLad said: Not seen this before…. David B.N. (before Newcastle ) Ginola still my favourite Newcastle player. And by far the sexiest, I would have happily changed sides if he gave me the wink 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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