strawb 800 Posted October 20 Report Share Posted October 20 Manchester gave back 88 million of the previous funding for furlough I think? So where has that all gone? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheGingerQuiff 1,581 Posted October 20 Report Share Posted October 20 Why we may never know the full story of Covid-19 https://f7td5.app.goo.gl/x2ah2R Sent via @updayUK WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEIIIRRRRRRRDDDD Quote Link to post Share on other sites
trooper 402 Posted October 20 Report Share Posted October 20 45 minutes ago, strawb said: Manchester gave back 88 million of the previous funding for furlough I think? So where has that all gone? That £88 million would have been enough to see them through. I bet they wish they'd kept it now Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rayvin 1,256 Posted October 20 Report Share Posted October 20 36 minutes ago, TheGingerQuiff said: Why we may never know the full story of Covid-19 https://f7td5.app.goo.gl/x2ah2R Sent via @updayUK WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEIIIRRRRRRRDDDD I thought you knew it was a Chinese government conspiracy? That's some climb down mate... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Monkeys Fist 6,571 Posted October 20 Report Share Posted October 20 The strange thing is that most in countries it took a while for the virus to get started, then went mad, whereas in China it went straight off the bat. I’ll get me coat. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RobinRobin 359 Posted October 21 Report Share Posted October 21 8 hours ago, Monkeys Fist said: I’ll get me coat. Good Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RobinRobin 359 Posted October 21 Report Share Posted October 21 12 hours ago, PaddockLad said: Of course but please stop calling me Shirley 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
trooper 402 Posted October 21 Report Share Posted October 21 LEADERS in the North East have said they will tell Boris Johnson to "sod off" if he tries to impose harsh Tier 3 rules on them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gemmill 2,609 Posted October 24 Report Share Posted October 24 Excess deaths in line with the 5 year average and deaths from Covid tracking below deaths from the flu and pneumonia. That's from the ONS website btw, not some dodgy bloke on YouTube. Again, I'm not saying the virus doesn't exist, or nobody needs to worry about it, but something is going on... It's now nearly two months since cases went through the roof and Renton and ewerk started wearing nappies full time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rayvin 1,256 Posted October 24 Report Share Posted October 24 If deaths are down then the only explanation for the difference between the two waves (assuming it hasn't mutated) is the state of readiness of the NHS. They're better equipped to deal with it now that the government's incompetence has been worked through? Which basically means that the real factor behind the deaths of 40,000 people was chronic underfunding of the NHS by successive Tory governments, and stunning incompetence from the sitting one. Lovely. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ewerk 5,790 Posted October 24 Report Share Posted October 24 I’m not one to defend the government but doctors will have learned an awful lot since the first wave about how to treat this. Plus we’ve a lot more ventilators to cope with the second wave. Also I’m guessing the elderly make up a much smaller proportion of hospital cases this time round. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
catmag 110 Posted October 25 Report Share Posted October 25 On 24/10/2020 at 16:38, ewerk said: I’m not one to defend the government but doctors will have learned an awful lot since the first wave about how to treat this. Plus we’ve a lot more ventilators to cope with the second wave. Also I’m guessing the elderly make up a much smaller proportion of hospital cases this time round. Yes we’ve learned a lot from the first wave and it seems to be showing given current patient outcomes. No, we don’t have any more ventilators. The first time around we stopped all routine surgery and used the vents that would’ve been in those theatres but we’re currently still running routine surgery so they’re in use. And the elderly are still by far making up the greatest number of admissions although we are seeing younger patients presenting in greater numbers than last time. We’re still run into the ground and have large numbers of medical and nursing staff either testing positive themselves or being asked to isolate having been in contact with positive patients or family members. It’s taking a massive toll on staff physical and mental health. 7 months in and I’ve personally never been tested, nor have many of my colleagues so we could be spreading it all over the place. 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ewerk 5,790 Posted October 25 Report Share Posted October 25 (edited) Well we’ve bought 30,000 ventilators so where are they? Edited October 25 by ewerk Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ewerk 5,790 Posted October 25 Report Share Posted October 25 (edited) And ALL NHS staff were to have been tested. We were told so in April FFS. Edited October 25 by ewerk 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
catmag 110 Posted October 25 Report Share Posted October 25 9 minutes ago, ewerk said: Well we’ve bought 30,000 ventilators so where are they? Probably standing in the empty Nightingale hospitals (which we can’t use without staff btw - good luck finding more nurses) None of us have been routinely tested. Only eligible if we have Covid symptoms. When I left work yesterday morning our ITU was full. Not all the patients were ventilated, some were on high flow oxygen but are extremely sick. I took a patient from theatre to a Covid ward and took up their last bed, although we still have some capacity on other wards. I don’t ever want to have to work up there - it was absolutely grim 🙁 I don’t really have the emotional energy to get into any debates/conversations on here but this thread is always interesting reading. I find the only way to get through life in general is to avoid the whole thing as much as possible (news/debates/social media/general aresholery) on the days I don’t have to deal with it 12hrs at a time, 4 nights per week. Meant to be annual leave next week but as per my last 4 planned weeks off, I’m working some of it. Last had a full week off in January and will be taking the full week I’ve got booked off in December (not Christmas or New Year though because all A/L is cancelled for then) On the plus side, at least I’m not fucking homeschooling this time! 😆 11 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NJS 716 Posted October 25 Report Share Posted October 25 You deserve a proper reward Cath - I'd just ask you all what you want in the world and make it happen. (Short of the impossible like Newcastle winning something). 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Monkeys Fist 6,571 Posted October 25 Report Share Posted October 25 54 minutes ago, catmag said: Probably standing in the empty Nightingale hospitals (which we can’t use without staff btw - good luck finding more nurses) None of us have been routinely tested. Only eligible if we have Covid symptoms. When I left work yesterday morning our ITU was full. Not all the patients were ventilated, some were on high flow oxygen but are extremely sick. I took a patient from theatre to a Covid ward and took up their last bed, although we still have some capacity on other wards. I don’t ever want to have to work up there - it was absolutely grim 🙁 I don’t really have the emotional energy to get into any debates/conversations on here but this thread is always interesting reading. I find the only way to get through life in general is to avoid the whole thing as much as possible (news/debates/social media/general aresholery) on the days I don’t have to deal with it 12hrs at a time, 4 nights per week. Meant to be annual leave next week but as per my last 4 planned weeks off, I’m working some of it. Last had a full week off in January and will be taking the full week I’ve got booked off in December (not Christmas or New Year though because all A/L is cancelled for then) On the plus side, at least I’m not fucking homeschooling this time! 😆 Aye, aye, but you do realise I’ve spent today an hour out of synch because you didn’t tell us all to put out clocks back. I trust you feel suitably shite about it. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ewerk 5,790 Posted October 25 Report Share Posted October 25 42 minutes ago, NJS said: You deserve a proper reward Cath - I'd just ask you all what you want in the world and make it happen. (Short of the impossible like Newcastle winning something). As long as all Cath wants in the world is a Graze snack box then she’s sorted. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
catmag 110 Posted October 25 Report Share Posted October 25 10 minutes ago, Monkeys Fist said: Aye, aye, but you do realise I’ve spent today an hour out of synch because you didn’t tell us all to put out clocks back. I trust you feel suitably shite about it. I had my first Saturday night off for weeks last night. Woke up about 2am, had a bit cackle to myself thinking about how I’ve ruined all your days and went back to sleep 😁 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
catmag 110 Posted October 25 Report Share Posted October 25 8 minutes ago, ewerk said: As long as all Cath wants in the world is a Graze snack box then she’s sorted. We’ve had lots of lovely bits and pieces sent in by the general public (hand cream/lip balm to help with PPE burns) but I really hope management aren’t wildly naive enough to offer us either of the above.. 🙄 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RobinRobin 359 Posted October 26 Report Share Posted October 26 6 hours ago, catmag said: I really hope management aren’t wildly naive enough to offer us either of the above.. 🙄 As if Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dr Gloom 2,814 Posted October 26 Report Share Posted October 26 I can’t think of anything the world needs less right now 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gemmill 2,609 Posted October 26 Report Share Posted October 26 Steve Baker is the cunt's cunt. There must be such a rich seam of fucking arseholes in his bloodline to have popped out that much of a dickhead. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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Anorthernsoul 848 Posted October 28 Author Report Share Posted October 28 Remember when Germany were "On top of it" in the summer? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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