PaddockLad 22498 Posted November 13 Share Posted November 13 Only watched about a 1/3 of this but its so far spot on, desperately missing Tino and Hall... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 63200 Posted November 13 Share Posted November 13 22 minutes ago, PaddockLad said: Only watched about a 1/3 of this but its so far spot on, desperately missing Tino and Hall... More fundamental an issue than just getting the fullbacks back by the time you watch the rest. We need to get better in possession..... Which is not gonna be easy. I think we might need to make some big moves in January. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 12383 Posted November 13 Share Posted November 13 Brilliant as ever from Clery. He makes the important point that the last purchase that really raised the bar was Tonali over 2 years ago. So we are standing still in some respects. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 63200 Posted November 13 Share Posted November 13 Some vaguely interesting stuff with the NUST chair on the latest Pod on the Tyne re ticketing. The club will publish a quarterly report now which includes figures about success rates in ballots etc. Season ticket waiting list was mentioned too. Worth a listen @thebrokendoll 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougle 4598 Posted November 13 Share Posted November 13 3 hours ago, Gemmill said: More fundamental an issue than just getting the fullbacks back by the time you watch the rest. We need to get better in possession..... Which is not gonna be easy. I think we might need to make some big moves in January. Aye, possession and misplaced passes is probably the biggest issue as to what's going on at the moment. Oh, yes, and erm of course......not actually being able to land the ball in the back of the net when the odd rare chance is created. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 8362 Posted November 13 Share Posted November 13 I think the biggest concern in that Clery video is something we've probably all noticed and which is catching other teams out too (Liverpool). The whole league it feels has chased the intensity style of play and now we simply aren't the best at doing it anymore. We're being outfought on what is meant to be our strength. West Ham and Brentford both did a number on us in this respect, it was visible even just watching as an airchair fan. Feels like we need to reinvent ourselves a bit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimaad22 6001 Posted November 13 Share Posted November 13 We've improved as a squad definitely but the point about the first team being relatively stagnant is a fair one. Elanga was supposed to improve on Murphy I suppose but let's leave that part alone for now and hope for the best. A bit like some of the other issues we've had under Howe, one could argue this is another phase that we need to go through in the evolution to becoming a consistently great team. Granted it does feel like an optimistic take given generally how poor we've been in the league this season but I still back Howe to do it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimaad22 6001 Posted November 13 Share Posted November 13 9 hours ago, Gemmill said: I think we might need to make some big moves in January. With the rat's sale you'd hope there's some room for January spending but given clubs are more reluctant to part with players mid season; it's hard to see us making big moves especially knowing how carefully/cautiously our management handles transfers when it comes to the price. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 8362 Posted November 13 Share Posted November 13 19 minutes ago, aimaad22 said: We've improved as a squad definitely but the point about the first team being relatively stagnant is a fair one. Elanga was supposed to improve on Murphy I suppose but let's leave that part alone for now and hope for the best. A bit like some of the other issues we've had under Howe, one could argue this is another phase that we need to go through in the evolution to becoming a consistently great team. Granted it does feel like an optimistic take given generally how poor we've been in the league this season but I still back Howe to do it. I suppose if we're completely fair about this, it's the moment when Howe needs to prove he actually is a great manager. He needs to move from being a good one with a good system to a great one who can and will do whatever it takes to reshape and adapt the team. It's encouraging in that sense to see him trying to develop the way we're playing, and that he has recognised the issue - but I guess none of us really know if he's got what it takes to make the adjustment, we just hope he does. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 12574 Posted November 14 Share Posted November 14 I think there's a few things at play here and they're all intertwined. Saying we haven't raised the ceiling since Tonali is a valid criticism, but we also needed to raise the floor and it could be argued that this was a more pressing concern. And to be fair we have tried to do that. Ramsey is an upgrade on Longstaff, Ramsdale an upgrade on Dubravka and Thiaw on Schar. Elanga hasn't done anything impressive yet, and obviously neither has Wissa. Woltemade... is he an upgrade on Isak? I doubt it, he may turn out to be a more important player to the more possession based style we're heading towards, but he's not the predatory striker Isak was. So the foundation of the squad is better than it was a few seasons ago, but we're significantly weaker in other areas, either through personnel or performance. We have to raise the ceiling and raise the floor. And we can't do both at the same time because of PSR. We're trying to morph from one style to an almost diametrically opposed style. And we need a lot of time on the training ground to achieve this, which we didn't get in the window and can't do now with 2 games a week. We're juggling 3 (soon to be 4) competitions. And we don't have the squad to do this. Or at least Howe doesn't have faith in the squad for this. Our summer window was disrupted again. And we lacked leadership in the boardroom to navigate it. Our boardroom remains in a state of confusion and flux. And the ownership are too slow in reacting to sort it out. Mitchell leaving prior to the window meaning we're rudderless going into a pre-Champions League window, the Isak saga starting in June and continuing until deadline day, every signing is overshadowed by the Isak nonsense, we're overpaying for the likes of Elanga, Wissa and Ramsey. So we start the season under a cloud, a cloud which is darkened by good performances reaping scant reward due to having no fit striker at the club. Then as those good performances tire out our good players we starting performing badly and the pressure rises. It's all very frustrating. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 12383 Posted November 14 Share Posted November 14 Your last paragraph focuses in on the frustrations for me, like. Raising the floor & ceiling is challenging ebough, without the unwelcome backdrop of C-suite unsettlement and the whole Isak saga. On Isak, Woltemade is not something we can compare with Isak as they're totally different players. Wissa is more closely aligned to that replacement and we all know how challenging that's been. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 12383 Posted November 14 Share Posted November 14 I see the club has distributed specific travel advice from the French police for the trip to Marseille. Quite amusing seeing some of the gammons on mainstream social media stating they WILL be wearing their colours and will not be told where they can / can't go and will absolutely wander through Vieux Port wearing their toon top. It's their funeral .... quite literally. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 22498 Posted November 14 Share Posted November 14 PL clubs meeting to ditch PSR next week. It's replacement won't change much for NUFC but I quite like the sound of this https://liveapp.inews.co.uk/category/4041197/content.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 9340 Posted November 14 Share Posted November 14 3 hours ago, PaddockLad said: PL clubs meeting to ditch PSR next week. It's replacement won't change much for NUFC but I quite like the sound of this https://liveapp.inews.co.uk/category/4041197/content.html The argument that this makes it difficult for PL clubs to compete with everyone else is bollocks. Italian football is skint, Bayern rarely spend silly money on players, Barca are fucked. The only 2 clubs in world football these rules would prevent anyone from competing with in reality are Real Madrid and PSG. "TBA" is also a really confusing acronym Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 12383 Posted November 14 Share Posted November 14 32 minutes ago, Kid Dynamite said: "TBA" is also a really confusing acronym Almost globally recognised as 'To Be Announced' 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammynb 4171 Posted November 15 Share Posted November 15 17 hours ago, Craig said: Almost globally recognised as 'To Be Announced Advised' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 15593 Posted November 15 Share Posted November 15 It seems the meaning of TBA between Sammy and Craig is TBA (To Be Agreed). 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 63200 Posted November 15 Share Posted November 15 (edited) If anyone wants one of these "exclusive" charva hats let me know and I'll register an interest for you. Edited November 29 by Gemmill 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 43933 Posted November 15 Share Posted November 15 43 minutes ago, Gemmill said: If anyone wants one of these "exclusive" charva hats let me know and I'll register an interest for you. Gemmill, can you do me a favour please and register my disinterest? Cheers, Captain. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 42149 Posted November 15 Share Posted November 15 (edited) Should’ve gone full deerstalker and sold it with a pipe and a magnifying glass Edited November 15 by Alex 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 50743 Posted November 15 Share Posted November 15 Presumably applications will go in to a draw, with the successful applicants being told by email they have lost? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 4949 Posted November 15 Share Posted November 15 I fucking hate international breaks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 6697 Posted November 15 Share Posted November 15 Its lovely not being depressed by football on a weekend 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 28542 Posted November 16 Author Share Posted November 16 On 13/11/2025 at 13:32, PaddockLad said: Only watched about a 1/3 of this but its so far spot on, desperately missing Tino and Hall... Finally got around to watching this. Very interesting and one point stuck with me. What was the last transfer we had that really raised our bar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 50743 Posted November 16 Share Posted November 16 9 hours ago, wykikitoon said: Finally got around to watching this. Very interesting and one point stuck with me. What was the last transfer we had that really raised our bar? Most of Howe’s incoming players, tbh. He doesn’t really go for fancy superstars, but each player has added something to the team that was in need of improvement, even if it’s adding “future” players to the squad like Park. None of that was happening under the previous lot. Trippier was a crucial signing, Bruno too. Then you look at young lads like Tino and Hall. All great signings without being a superstar , and all contributing to raising the bar of the whole squad, which is what Howe is about. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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