Renton

Hopefully Tino is feeling okay. May help us this.

"Man United Stretford End obliged to score next" You what?

Fuck me they're shit.

VAR check. Fucking joke, it was nowhere near.

I know you've ran out of patio space, but this method of disposal will lead plod straight to your front door, and your full patio for that matter. Forensics.

This surprises me somewhat. Mind I'll count the one where Solskjaer chopped down Lee as a win to us. Anyway, think it will be 2 wins tonight and many more to come.

Neville just said this, Diallo for Murphy and possibly Onana for Dubravka. Not sure about the second swap mind, but tbf neither was he.

You can tell when they lose. They need another Mag wearing toon tops threads. So on average 3 or 4 of these threads a month.

When I was in them, for the same thing, I developed a strange tic, sudden jerky movements of my limb and neck. Cleared up as soon as I stopped and I went on a penicillin based antibiotics iirc, which worked.

Quinolones are nasty like. Hope the next lot agree with you better and your prostate gets sorted! Thats another thing on my list to get looked at. Oh joy.

I think your both right tbh. Physical addiction means withdrawals. When I ended up in hospital I was certainly close to that. Or I felt I was, but I wasn't. My electrolytes were shot to shit and my heart wasn't functioning properly, it was horrific. Mainly potassium depletion. The docs told me even then though that I was definitely not physically dependent - you need more than 2 weeks for that, and need to drink a lot more, I had just basically abused my body and a lot of my symptoms were starvation. I hadn't eaten in 2 weeks. Almost at all. Insane dangerous period of my life when I fell apart completely. They were brilliant fixing me up but ateod not interested or equipped to do the MH stuff I later needed and didn't get. Later had all the scans and blood tests and I'm okay. Better than average I fact as one poster once said. Physical dependency is terrifying, from what I've read. I really pity those souls. Behavioural problems/psychological dependence/addiction are also truly bad, though imo not in the same league. Those (physically dependent) people have to drink to live, if they don't, they might well die in agony. Fucking hell. Seizures, delirium tremors, strokes, brain haemorrhage. Lives completely revolved around acquiring drink so you don't literally die. And death through liver failure is coming for you anyway. And stopping in that state is nigh on impossible with the lack of service here. But in the binge state, you can end up dead pretty quickly if you do something stupid and still otherwise wreck your life. And worse, others. And that's where I am at. It's an interesting discussion anyway. I'm okay for now I think, I'll repeat I don't want to be having this discussion (personally I mean) in 2025. I think Smart recovery might be my next port of call. Seems to be the best option from what I can make out (for abstinence or professional moderation). I'll keep an occasional update on here.

Well that depends on what you call a blip. I had beer on my summer hols most days. It was intentional and no problems. Felt in complete control, never felt ill, 3 or 4 max over an entire night. Was that a blip? Had the odd beer or wine other times too, no issue. But then I started 3 days with good intentions this Xmas and disaster. So aye, what J69, Gemmill etc says is right. Clearly I need complete sobriety. But that isn't easy. Cos I do like a drink when Im in control. Not so much when I'm not. And in 3 occasions now I have completely lost control which is actually scarey. But not drinking again ever makes me feel a bit down tbh. New Years eve will be very hard. January almost certainly guarantees depression for me, that's just a fact, although at least drink will not be a temptation. I've tried antidepressants with disastrous results, withdrawal was horrible. I've tried talking therapies and ended up much worse. The only thing that helps me is walking and listening to stuff. But I'm doing 20000 fucking steps a day now, wearing out my shoes and basically just dont have the time! I guess running is the next step but I don't like running much. And despite all I've said, honestly I think for me drink is the symptom not the cause (although obviously it's a bit of both), because not drinking doesn't cure me (but of course spares me this) It's just mental health at the end of the day isn't it? I know a lot of us struggle with this, I'm not alone. Hence why Im minded to share my thoughts.

Update. Just had a amazing shit. Perfectly formed paper saver. Given the state of my guts this was some surprise I can tell you. Off to get the train to Edinburgh where we are seeing the botanical gardens light show. Will endeavour to stay out of bother, not easy in that city admittedly but will stick to cafes and restaurants. As AH said, new day, new start etc. My problems are minor in the grand scheme of things. So many people have it worse than me. Genuine thanks. New year resolution - go a full year without another post like these. 👍

Difficult to disagree. I know how it goes. Today was a tough day. I was in places people were drinking, knowing that just one drink would cure me- for now. Resisted the temptation, felt sick all day, could hardly eat. Tomorrow will be easier. Except I'm staying in Edinburgh which is the worst place possible for the peeve.Typical. I'll get through it though, by New year the cravings will start. Then they’ll go after 2 weeks and then the fucking boredom will kick in which is nearly as bad. Want to sink a couple with your mates? Just soft drinks for you lad. I don't fucking care that there is a great choice nowadays, I will miss the buzz. Its not the same but logically the alternative is clearly worse. Maybe not immediately but somewhere down the line my brain will explode and I'm back on here blabbing to you guys for support. And you have all been a great support, I mean it. I'm writing this as therapy for myself but also hope it may help people with their own demons. I think back on my life and that first time I drank to relieve a hangover was me fucked. No going back from that moment. Please don't do this. So I'm in bed early dosed up on omeprazole looking forward to feeling better tomorrow and the familiar battles ahead of me. Starting with insomnia and anxiety.I hate this time of year.

I guess I'm not fully committed to. complete abstinence yet. Sometimes I am fine. Most the time. On holidays somewhere hot I just have the odd beer and enjoy it, no problem.Normally I have nowt in the house and can have a couple of drinks with a meal, and that's it. It adds to my enjoyment But sometimes I just flip. Today I'm just hungover really, will stay off the drink without much bother. But in July I literally went on a bender for no reason, I lost 4 days out of my life and don't even know why. Can't remember it. And of course 2 years ago I ended up in hospital for a week I was so bad with it. Nearly died I was so fucked up. I know I need to stop. I don't want my kids seeing me like this. But sad as it sounds I don't have a lot of other pleasures in my life. I'm tempted just to say one day at a time. And I won't drink for a few weeks, maybe months. Then I'll be sensible. And then won't in time - in maybe 6 months or a year I self destruct and I'll hate myself. Anyway, cheers, writing this down has convinced me I need help.I can't pretend I can do this on my own anymore. I'm ill.

Alcoholism. Fallen off the wagon big time , need to get on it again. Absolutely sick of this shite. Feel mentally ashamed and physically awful. Watching a panto this afternoon on the dry heaved ain't going to be fun. So tempted just to have the one. Will make me feel better right? And then I will be sick again tomorrow. Why can't I drink in moderation like every other fucker? Maybe 2025 will be the year I shake this monkey from my back. I doubt it like.

We've known each other some time now Rayvin. Let me impart this piece of wisdom on you. Birmingham is a shit hole. Villa fans are complete cunts. That is all.

There you Gaan. Smashed the beige cunts all over. Enjoy your eggs benidict tomorrow lads then fuck off back to your brummy concrete hell hole you fucking bell ends.

Some of them.

This is literally me today. Anybody coming to the lovely Tynemouth on the Metro have a look on the foot bridge. Chris Donald has done a great job.

Quinolones. They can also cause seizures, from personal experience. Merry fucking Christmas!

On the positive side at least hopefully you yourself are over the worst of the flu, which is really important just for coping with family, young and old. I'm in the Fish boat today. Done literally fuck all. Just monitor e-mails, nudge the mouse occasionally so the green status light comes on, and get paid, all the while having the excuse not to do the family Xmas things. Finally getting in the Xmas mood, 8 days off after today. 🥳

I read that in this voice.

Lived in Scotland too long. 👍