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hmmm let me know how you get on as its impossible trying to find a way of downloading some of the stuff Ive got on vinyl. This is it http://www.firebox.com/index.html?dir=fire...1&src_t=wnp

Aye class, used to have a small bit of rope at the front so you could pull it back/up a bit. We'd go to cow hill just outside of town with them.

Actually, I have got a cheek like as Im in the process of working out how to transfer my old vinyl to mp3 Think you can get this usb deck thing for £60, or so Im told.

Used to use a sledge when I was a kid like Actually, a gas board thing ....

Insane. Odds slashed on you being a gibbering wreck before the day is out.

Aye you're right Ive not heard a single one of them (heard of yes, just not listened to).

Finishing around 12 To 3hours to go, though that will be broken up as Im about to go get us all a MacDonalds.

Well, if they showed any hint of that Id forget them like a shot. At the moment, they seem like they would get my vote over the other options. Then again, Im sure if we all knew everything that went on with every party no one would get voted for. Dictatorship ftw!

Well thats true, they do avoid debate on "tricky" subjects. IMO through fear of reproach. But, for many of the normal day to day people, they are avoiding issues that matter. Ok I started the thread on immigration only because yesterday I was read a very touching story about the death of the WPC, then today I start reading about the woman who was killed at the kids christening. But, on UKIP, I find very interesting their views on health & welfare, education and europe. Reading their brief agenda - I've usually taken the stance "all as bad as each other" and generally felt that labour over tory wasnt going to make that much of a difference. Same could well be said about these. Im not big on the ins and outs of politics. But some things do make you take notice. Things in the news, or in my case my wife works for the NHS so I get things from her side as well. Her friend is a teacher so I get thats side of things. There is no all fantasic party and all have a priority agenda. They would be disastrous for the NHS and leaving the EU would be catastrophic for our economy. Besides which, I happen to like living and travelling in Europe and the benefit that all our reciprocal agreements bring. But its to near christmas for politics, we'll agree to disagree. Dunno, I quite like some of their ideas on the NHS. But aye, Xmas and all

If you think its rare then your need to go know the veil is meant to be over your mouth and nose, not your eyes. Go read the news. You'll also note that I started the thread saying "We already have enough nutters of our own without letting more in". Just dont start on the whole "why not mention British blah blah" shite. Why? because thats not what Im talking about! Of course there are other problems, plenty of them, but when you read story after story about how devistated peoples lives have become due to human rights bollocks and "do gooders". As for the veil, I dont think it should be illegal in public places. I dont really have a problem with it. Any places where security is an issue though (Airports, banks etc) and of course schools then yes they need their own policy. Oh, and BNP and UKIP are totally different, but thats another topic. UKIP are still a bunch of right-wing, xenophobic, sexist, middle-aged, middle-England tossers imo. I despise that party. There was a brilliant documentary about them here on TV ahead of the last European election. They travelled around with one UKIP candidate during his campaign. He was always ranting how terrible the EU is and how it drags the UK downhill. Then they visited a small factory. The candidate was raving about it being able to compete on the European market and how this is what British should be proud of and that the EU has never done anything for the UK. Until the owner of the factory got a chance to speak and said. "Err sorry Mr. Candidate, but we actually couldn't survive without getting subsidised via the EU regional fund." The reaction of the candidate was very pythonesque. It wasn't Robert Kilroy-Silk by any chance was it? I saw that programme if so. He came across as an ill-informed buffoon. What was he booted out of the party for again? Cant recall now, I know he dropped himself right in it over something

I dont know all the facts and figures, but I think the issue is largely the amount we pay into the EU compared to what we get back out. Plus with more countries joining, more of our money will go into a pot to get a smaller share. We do benefit from it (like the example you give), but dont forget we put a massive amount in.

You should drink in the big market. Water AND beer at the same time, you;d be like a pig in shit.

Twice now Ive read this thread as Xmas Nipples....

No. Are you a right-wing bigot? Anyway, I already stated that I do think it is a problem, I just don't like the way the media pick up stories and go hysterical about it. We need inteeligent debate, fat chance of that in this country. Tell the womans child not to go hysterical when she grows up and learns what happened to her mother

Well thats true, they do avoid debate on "tricky" subjects. IMO through fear of reproach. But, for many of the normal day to day people, they are avoiding issues that matter. Ok I started the thread on immigration only because yesterday I was read a very touching story about the death of the WPC, then today I start reading about the woman who was killed at the kids christening. But, on UKIP, I find very interesting their views on health & welfare, education and europe. Reading their brief agenda - I've usually taken the stance "all as bad as each other" and generally felt that labour over tory wasnt going to make that much of a difference. Same could well be said about these. Im not big on the ins and outs of politics. But some things do make you take notice. Things in the news, or in my case my wife works for the NHS so I get things from her side as well. Her friend is a teacher so I get thats side of things. There is no all fantasic party and all have a priority agenda.

Well, in that respect, each to their own. I think they have some interesting policies and tackle some issues that others shy away from, generally issues that matter to me personally - but then like I say, each to their own

That was the story about the veil : http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6195581.stm

If you think its rare then your need to go know the veil is meant to be over your mouth and nose, not your eyes. Go read the news. You'll also note that I started the thread saying "We already have enough nutters of our own without letting more in". Just dont start on the whole "why not mention British blah blah" shite. Why? because thats not what Im talking about! Of course there are other problems, plenty of them, but when you read story after story about how devistated peoples lives have become due to human rights bollocks and "do gooders". As for the veil, I dont think it should be illegal in public places. I dont really have a problem with it. Any places where security is an issue though (Airports, banks etc) and of course schools then yes they need their own policy. Oh, and BNP and UKIP are totally different, but thats another topic.

Thats got to be a complete joke. Whats the picture on the passport? a pair of eyes?

Drink both (not same cup) tea n coffee. Tried several times with the fancy gizmo's and they usually end up gathering dust on the kitchen table. Nescafe Decafe Im drinking at the min, though I do enjoy a Costa's Late - though none of this "Vanilla shot" shite like.

All three are a total waste of space. On this issue they're too scared to do anything worth while about it. So many have now been let into the country they probably make up a large portion of the vote (for labour) so they'd be shooting themselves in the foot.

Or at least Im sick of reading about horrific things done by people who have alledgedly come to this country for shelter. We already have enough nutters of our own without letting more in. Today Im reading about a group of youths (some illegal immegrants) that murdered a childs mother at the childs christening (see: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/6192507.stm). Yesterday I was reading about the death of the WPC who was shot and how one of the gang is thought to have gone back to Somalia (dressed as a woman in a veil, using his sisters passport and got away with it!). Its said that even though some of these people have committed crime after crime, they cant be shipped back to their country as its against their human rights FFS! What a mess. As soon as they committ a single crime they should be booted out. Too much pussy footing around by people to scared to have a finger pointed at them for being none PC. We're getting increasing gang culture and increase in exreme violent crime. Tell ya, we're too soft. Bring back the death penalty, open the countries doors to those really in need sure, but ship em back out if they trip up once. Honestly, Im just sick of reading all this shite in the news. I'd never vote for BNP, but UKIP are certainly making me sit up and take note (for a whole load if issues not just this). I need a beer....

Thats shite. What is it with people / companies and the way the go about these things. When it happened to me they dragged me to London telling me it was to talk about plans for the following year only to them tell me they were closing us down and that I wasnt to tell any of the staff (which I did though). Anyway, was a blessing in disguise for me and things turned out even better after that. Hope the same happens for you.

Hmm, getting married, going to my 1st World Cup (game and Semi), Shearer breaking the record, Shearers testimonial. Canny.