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I'd be satisfied if it were unearthed that Coronation Street was a den of Paedophiles and the whole thing got canned, but that's just because I hate the fucking show and it's audience.

You can chuck in Eastenders in as well.

 

By the way CT, comedy snob The Fish spent a lot of yesterday copying and pasting your Jimmy Savile jokes onto his Facebook. ;)

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Have ANY other stars of the 70s and 80s done any interviews where they condemn the likes of Stuart Hall and Saville and express any surprise at the sheer number of other celebs being arrested and/or charged?

 

Seems to be a complete silence to me, which isn't surprising as it seems to have been the defacto position to take at the time. Or they'er all just waiting for the investigation to swing around to them.

 

Abhorrent.

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Not being investigated as part of Yewtree, its been handed straight to North Yorkshire plod. Childrens Homes then?.... a bloke I worked with when I was an apprentice in the mid 80s told me a gang of famous celebs toured childrens homes abusing kids. He metinoned Jonanthon King and Elton John's former manager John Reid. Take Saville in with the already convicted King and it looks like all this was public knowlegde to some people. May well mean the police were turning a blind eye too. Unimagineable nowadays but the post war care system in general looks a very dark place.

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Not being investigated as part of Yewtree, its been handed straight to North Yorkshire plod. Childrens Homes then?.... a bloke I worked with when I was an apprentice in the mid 80s told me a gang of famous celebs toured childrens homes abusing kids. He metinoned Jonanthon King and Elton John's former manager John Reid. Take Saville in with the already convicted King and it looks like all this was public knowlegde to some people. May well mean the police were turning a blind eye too. Unimagineable nowadays but the post war care system in general looks a very dark place.

It does seem that they really thought they could do anything they wanted back then and everyone would brush it under the carpet. Saville is the prime example of this. From what I remember about the documentary there were a lot of people who were quite certain he was up to no good but were too scared for their own position to do anything about it. You would hope that someone getting a paedo convicted would get praised for their actions but back then it could have ended their career. In that respect there was something very wrong with the BBC at the time!

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Not Saville but.......

 

Quite often gets said that parents of today are Too neurotic and shouldn't worry as much as they do, but when you read horrific stuff like this about wankers using the Internet to share their perversions it literally makes your blood run cold.

 

A British man living in the US has pleaded guilty to an international plot involving child kidnapping and pornography.

 

Forty-year-old Geoffrey Portway, a UK citizen living in Worcester, Massachusetts, admitted the charges in federal court.

 

Portway was arrested in July 2012 after US investigators allegedly found child pornography and photos of children who appeared to be dead on his computer.

 

Authorities said he chatted online with two men who talked about their desire to abduct, kill and eat children, and investigators found equipment in his basement to carry out the gruesome acts.

 

The soundproofed room in the leafy New England suburb allegedly contained a child-sized homemade coffin, a steel cage, torture devices and butchering tools.

 

"This dungeon was described in detail by Portway in recovered chats as a place he intended to use to keep kidnapped children while he sexually abused them, and as a place to eventually murder and cannibalise the children," federal documents revealed.

 

Portway was among dozens arrested in the investigation that began with the detention of another man in Massachusetts who has been jailed for 18 years.

 

More than 50 suspects were eventually detained and over 160 children were rescued in the United States, Canada and Europe.

 

Portway was said to have solicited several people to help him abduct a child, including a man named Michael Arnett from Kansas.

 

He told Arnett he later intended to rape, kill and eat the child, prosecutors said.

 

Arnett has pleaded guilty in Kansas to sexual exploitation of a child for the purposes of producing child pornography.

 

Portway could face between 18 and 27 years in prison under an agreement with prosecutors. Sentencing was set for August.

 

He will be deported back to the UK after his imprisonment.

 

"Clearly, the facts of this case were quite disturbing and we are grateful law enforcement acted when they did," said US Attorney Carmen M Ortiz.

 

"I hope that this case sends a clear message that we will prosecute to the fullest extent of the law those who participate in these types of activities."

 

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Makes it worse IMO that it looks like a nice house.

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Erm, that last sentence, wtf?

 

Just the fact a lot of people imagine these types as the lowest in society where as this guy is the guy next door in what looks like a quite posh area. You imagine your kids are safer bringing them up in a nice neighbourhood.

 

Forget my thoughts, it's horrific enough story as it is.

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Just the fact a lot of people imagine these types as the lowest in society where as this guy is the guy next door in what looks like a quite posh area. You imagine your kids are safer bringing them up in a nice neighbourhood.

 

Forget my thoughts, it's horrific enough story as it is.

 

Thing is, with some crimes that makes sense - higher theft/burglary rates due to poverty, for example - but sexual deviancy, psychoses involving detachment from social norms and so on are (at least as far as I know) distributed fairly normally throughout the population. If anything, you could argue that when it comes to complex and expensive plans like this (soundproofed torture rooms ffs), it's the people who can afford it you should be watching out for!

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Thing is, with some crimes that makes sense - higher theft/burglary rates due to poverty, for example - but sexual deviancy, psychoses involving detachment from social norms and so on are (at least as far as I know) distributed fairly normally throughout the population. If anything, you could argue that when it comes to complex and expensive plans like this (soundproofed torture rooms ffs), it's the people who can afford it you should be watching out for!

 

I'm sure that's right, you just imagine these monsters to have a shack in the woods type scenario.

 

Terrible enough that any person would be so sick as described here, but to then think there's hundreds of them discussing torture and eating kids ffs.

 

 

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The "persecution of old men" in the wake of the Jimmy Savile sex abuse scandal is wrong and the age of consent should be lowered to 13, according to a leading barrister.

 

Barbara Hewson said the child sex abuse crimes of the disgraced television presenter Stuart Hall were "low level misdemeanours".

 

She also said the law that guarantees anonymity for those who complain of sex abuse should be scrapped.

 

The leading human rights barrister at London chambers Hardwicke said: "The post-Savile witch-hunting of ageing celebs echoes the Soviet Union".

 

Her comments in the online magazine, Spiked, came as Scotland Yard's Operation Yewtree continued its inquiries into allegations involving Savile and others, many of whom have been high-profile names.

 

It has led to the arrest of Rolf Harris, the former pop star Gary Glitter, DJ Dave Lee Travis, comedian Jim Davidson and PR guru Max Clifford. All deny any wrongdoing.

 

She claims the witch-hunting is the result of the "do-gooders" and "moral crusaders" who have infiltrated "Britain's law-enforcement apparatus."

 

She goes on to name these "moral crusaders" as the National Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Children (NSPCC) and the National Association for People Abused in Childhood (NAPAC).

 

Both charities take part in Operation Yewtree.

 

In the article, Ms Hewson said: "But the low-level misdemeanours with which Stuart Hall was charged are nothing like serious crime."

 

She added: "Ordinarily, Hall's misdemeanours would not be prosecuted, and certainly not decades after the event.

 

"What we have here is the manipulation of the British criminal-justice system to produce scapegoats on demand. It is a grotesque spectacle."

 

And she concluded: "As for law reform, now regrettably necessary, my recommendations are remove complainant anonymity, introduce a strict statute of limitations for criminal prosecutions and civil actions and reduce the age of consent to 13."

 

Peter Watt, director of the NSPCC helpline, said: "These outdated and simply ill-informed views would be shocking to hear from anyone but to hear them from a highly experienced barrister simply beggars belief.

 

"Stuart Hall has pleaded guilty to abusing children as young as nine years old, we think most people would agree that crimes of this nature are incredibly serious. Thankfully the law, and most people, are very clear on this matter.

 

"To minimise and trivialise the impact of these offences for victims in this way is all but denying that they have in fact suffered abuse at all. Any suggestion of lowering the age of consent could put more young people at risk from those who prey on vulnerable young people."

 

Ms Hewson's comments sparked a Twitter backlash. She posted: "So now someone wants me raped and another wants me 'hunted into obscurity'-Visceral, very nasty stuff."

 

Ms Hewson is regularly ranked as a Leading Junior by The Legal 500 in the fields of public and administrative law, human rights and civil liberties, and professional discipline and regulatory law, according to her chambers' website.

 

She has won cases in the European Court of Human Rights, the Supreme Court and High Court of the Republic of Ireland.

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I wonder if Barbara Hewson would feel as strongly if her nine year old daughter only had Hall's digits inserted into her rather than a full blown rape? I mean, what's a few digits for fuck sake?

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  • 2 weeks later...

I went for a pint with a mate the other week and he brought an older lad from work with him. Talk got round to Stuart Hall and this lad started fondly reminscing about the days when you would nip an arse or cop a feel and it was all fun.

 

That's a load of bollocks for a start and most women put up with it rather than enjoying it, but I had to point out Hall was noncing a fucking 9 year old. Seems this stupid bitch is ignorant of that as well.

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