Europe --- In or Out

[Dickie 0]

Between that and his posts about Sardinia, I think he's high.

 

[NJS 3978]

Is my memory failing me or wasn't "Mackem" always a derogatory term? There's something bizarre about seeing a Guardian political commentator use it: "Mole is one of 82,934 Mackems who voted to leave the EU seven weeks ago"

They reclaimed it as an identity sometime in the 80s.

 

I first heard it around 76 or 77 and it was definitely a pisstake/insult at that time.

 

I think they felt they needed a more defined separation from the Geordie label - it was/is funny as fuck reading the reluctance on RTG to accept that historically Geordie was used as a catch-all for the North East as evidenced by the video evidence of them singing it at Wembley in 73.

[Dickie 0]

They reclaimed it as an identity sometime in the 80s.

 

I first heard it around 76 or 77 and it was definitely a pisstake/insult at that time.

 

I think they felt they needed a more defined separation from the Geordie label - it was/is funny as fuck reading the reluctance on RTG to accept that historically Geordie was used as a catch-all for the North East as evidenced by the video evidence of them singing it at Wembley in 73.

 

Ah right, cheers  . I remember it being used as an insult in Shields (N) in late 80s and possibly into early 90s mind - as with most things we were probably a bit slow to catch on 

[Howmanheyman 26834]

Bobby Charlton called them all Geordies in their semi final v Norwich in 92 so he was also a bit out of the loop.

[Christmas Tree 3997]

It rallied 2.5% on the news that we know who our prime minister is and we don't have he uncertainty a 9 week leadership campaign would bring and the possibility of a Leadsom government. It's still down about 6 percent since the referendum. Keep watching for more signs of dead cats

Somebody needs to tell this cats it's dead. Up another 800 points since you posted this. Now a yearly high.

[Christmas Tree 3997]

And now the insurance industry recovers as well.

 

 

 

https://www.ft.com/content/dc6e86b2-5f9d-11e6-b38c-7b39cbb1138a

 

 

More BAMFU

[Christmas Tree 3997]

Even DFS are on course for record results.

 

[TheGingerQuiff 2412]

What's going to happen with the automotive industry then CT?

[Gemmill 34464]

A sofa shop. What a fucking stupid cunt.

[Christmas Tree 3997]

What's going to happen with the automotive industry then CT?

Those firms like Nissan that have been investing here will continue, those like Ford who've been closing down for years will continue to fuck off.

[Christmas Tree 3997]

A sofa shop. What a fucking stupid cunt.

One of the biggest retailers in the UK, A bellwether for the housing market and big ticket luxury goods, one of the first casualties in troubled times.

[Gemmill 34464]

You're an idiot and you're beyond out of your depth on this. There are people on here whose job it is to stay on top of what's going on with the economy, and the news is not good at all. For once, show some humility and shut your face about a topic that you are woefully uninformed on.

[Christmas Tree 3997]

You're an idiot and you're beyond out of your depth on this. There are people on here whose job it is to stay on top of what's going on with the economy, and the news is not good at all. For once, show some humility and shut your face about a topic that you are woefully uninformed on.

I'm in the shallow end, wearing armbands and swimming strongly.

 

And don't be a sulky prick and play the humility card. Jesus. We are grown ups arguing about politics on a football forum. Grow a pair.

[ewerk 26348]

What is the definition of a recession?

[Christmas Tree 3997]

 

What is the definition of a recession?

Negative economic growth for two consecutive quarters.

[ewerk 26348]

Not one has said there's definitely going to be a recession, (which by the way is a few months of negative growth).

And how many months in a quarter?

[Gemmill 34464]

He's finally looked it up.

 

CT, that's exactly the point. It's not me that needs to grow up. You are trying to engage in a discussion that you know nothing about. We aren't adults discussing anything, because an adult that was "grown up" would stay away from things he knows nothing about.

[Dr Gloom 19825]

Somebody needs to tell this cats it's dead. Up another 800 points since you posted this. Now a yearly high.

I don't think you've entirely understood the metaphor. I'll refer you to my previous post about the FTSE 250, which you apparently ignored. It's revival looks like a vote of confidence in UK plc, but closer inspection reveals a divergence between the outperformers, which have been largely overseas earners, and comprise about half the index, and domestic businesses like house builders, retailers and challenger banks, which are struggling.

 

There could well still be chaos in the markets when we find out what "brexit means brexit" actually means - they're in no rush to tell us, and no rush to trigger article 50.

[Dr Gloom 19825]

If brexit actually ends up meaning we stay in the EU in all but name then I'll be tempted to adopt your BAU outlook, CT. until we know what we're giving up its anything but

[Meenzer 14055]

That'd be quite funny. BAU as millions of Poles and Lithuanians still choose not to flock to Sunderland.

[Christmas Tree 3997]

I don't think you've entirely understood the metaphor. I'll refer you to my previous post about the FTSE 250, which you apparently ignored. It's revival looks like a vote of confidence in UK plc, but closer inspection reveals a divergence between the outperformers, which have been largely overseas earners, and comprise about half the index, and domestic businesses like house builders, retailers and challenger banks, which are struggling.

 

There could well still be chaos in the markets when we find out what "brexit means brexit" actually means - they're in no rush to tell us, and no rush to trigger article 50.

U.K. Insurance recovers, UK retailer DFS soars, Bellway house builders forecast 27% jump in revenues and says "Customer confidence and trading conditions have remained strong.

 

All UK

 

As I said to you a few weeks back, I'm happy to end this tit for tat news story posting if you are.

[Dr Gloom 19825]

II'd be happy for you to stop posting, you ignoramus

[Rayvin 4964]

I think there's something worth pointing out here mind, throughout this - the stuff we saw post-Brexit was the reaction to the news. Not the actual consequences of leaving. That said, some of these reactions will form consequences (the pound seems unlikely to recover any time soon).

 

So yes, the reaction is levelling out. It's probably not worth carrying out short term comparisons of the FTSEs now. I do believe there will be long term implications, and that we will be able to point to Brexit as a cause of them (positive or negative) but we haven't seen them yet IMO.

[Dr Gloom 19825]

I am happy to concede that we haven't experienced a Lehman brothers style crash that many were predicting, CT. but again that is largely because we still don't know what we're going to end up with. If brexit does end up meaning brexit then don't rule it out.

 

But there lies the problem. If article 50 was triggered immediately after the result, as the brexiteers wanted, we'd be in a very different situation. Not that the situation we find ourselves in now is particularly encouraging, with all domestic economic indicators down post-referendum.

[Rayvin 4964]

I am happy to concede that we haven't experienced a Lehman brothers style crash that many were predicting, CT. but again that is largely because we still don't know what we're going to end up with. If brexit does end up meaning brexit then don't rule it out.

 

But there lies the problem. If article 50 was triggered immediately after the result, as the brexiteers wanted, we'd be in a very different situation. Not that the situation we find ourselves in now is particularly encouraging, with all domestic economic indicators down post-referendum.

 

This is certainly true.