Park Life 70 Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 Class That's brilliant. They couldn't handle it and he only took it down one level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimaad22 3472 Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 What are you calling their homelands The places they live in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Anorthernsoul 1221 Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 Alan Henning dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rayvin 4964 Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 I'm not certain what the beheadings are supposed to achieve to be honest. We're clearly not going to stop bombing them because of it... Is it just impotent rage? Revenge? Is beheading unarmed civilians the only countermeasure ISIS has against hundreds of their men being blown up? Do they expect it to work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bictor 0 Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 I'm not certain what the beheadings are supposed to achieve to be honest. We're clearly not going to stop bombing them because of it... Is it just impotent rage? Revenge? Is beheading unarmed civilians the only countermeasure ISIS has against hundreds of their men being blown up? Do they expect it to work? I think the point is that they want bombing and the attention that comes along with it. We kill innocent civilians, locals get angry at the west and become more radicalised. If they're scared of whatever the west is going to do they wouldn't be taking British and American civilians hostage trying to provoke a reaction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 14626 Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 14626 Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 Why did the sun print images of the previous 2 IS murders?.....fuckin hyporcrites... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken 119 Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 To attract readers. Unfortunately it took that long to realise firstly that it was distasteful and secondly that it aided IS with what it is trying to achieve. Publicity and visual shock and awe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 (edited) “We have to ask why the majority of the leaders of the Islamic State (IS), formerly the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS), had all been incarcerated in the same prison at Camp Bucca, which was run by the US occupation forces near Omm Qasr in southeastern Iraq….. First of all, most IS leaders had passed through the former U.S. detention facility at Camp Bucca in Iraq. So who were the most prominent of these detainees? The leader of IS, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, tops the list. He was detained from 2004 until mid-2006. After he was released, he formed the Army of Sunnis, which later merged with the so-called Mujahideen Shura Council… Another prominent IS leader today is Abu Ayman al-Iraqi, who was a former officer in the Iraqi army under Saddam Hussein. This man also “graduated” from Camp Bucca, and currently serves as a member on IS’ military council. Another member of the military council who was in Bucca is Adnan Ismail Najm. … He was detained on January 2005 in Bucca, and was also a former officer in Saddam’s army. He was the head of a shura council in IS, before he was killed by the Iraqi army near Mosul on June 4, 2014. http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/10/06/americas-terrorist-academy-in-iraq-produced-isis-leaders/ Camp Bucca was also home to Haji Samir, aka Haji Bakr, whose real name is Samir Abed Hamad al-Obeidi al-Dulaimi. He was a colonel in the army of the former Iraqi regime. He was detained in Bucca, and after his release, he joined al-Qaeda. He was the top man in ISIS in Syria… According to the testimonies of US officers who worked in the prison, the administration of Camp Bucca had taken measures including the segregation of prisoners on the basis of their ideology. This, according to experts, made it possible to recruit people directly and indirectly. Former detainees had said in documented television interviews that Bucca…was akin to an “al-Qaeda school,” where senior extremist gave lessons on explosives and suicide attacks to younger prisoners. A former prisoner named Adel Jassem Mohammed said that one of the extremists remained in the prison for two weeks only, but even so was able to recruit 25 out of 34 inmates who were there. Mohammed also said that U.S. military officials did nothing to stop the extremists from mentoring the other detainees… No doubt, we will one day discover that many more leaders in the group had been detained in Bucca as well, which seems to have been more of a “terrorist academy” than a prison.” (“The mysterious link between the US military prison Camp Bucca and ISIS leaders“, Alakhbar English) http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/09/12/how-the-west-created-the-islamic-state/ Edited October 7, 2014 by Park Life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mincepie 0 Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 The places they live in? you said we are bombing their homelands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mincepie 0 Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 (edited) Why did the sun print images of the previous 2 IS murders?.....fuckin hyporcrites... maybe its because its a British tabloid and actually horrifyingly supports Britain rather than the Islamic bias some are showing on this topic. Edited October 7, 2014 by mincepie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 14626 Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 maybe its because its a British tabloid and actually horrifyingly supports Britain rather than the Islamic bias some are showing on this topic. Sooo....its considered patriotic in this country for its media to show images of US citizens seconds before they are beheaded, but not UK citizens?.... The Sun supported the invasion of Iraq in 2002, before which IS, or as they were formerly called Al Qaeda in Iraq, didnt exist. Go figure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 14060 Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 Go figure. That's asking a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mincepie 0 Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 That's asking a lot. How do we stop these beheadings as you seem to think you have the answers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 14060 Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 How do we stop these beheadings as you seem to think you have the answers Like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26441 Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 Try your best bitches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 9010 Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 How do we stop these beheadings as you seem to think you have the answers The same way we stopped Christians beheading people, decades of education, modernisation and the marginalisation of extremism. Put it this way, these people are not afraid to die, so death isn't a discouragement, similar to the way capital punishment isn't a deterrent to psychopaths or gang members. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mincepie 0 Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 The same way we stopped Christians beheading people, decades of education, modernisation and the marginalisation of extremism. Put it this way, these people are not afraid to die, so death isn't a discouragement, similar to the way capital punishment isn't a deterrent to psychopaths or gang members. we don't have decades left to disprove Enoch Powell. Decisive action should have been taken been decades ago, and the other nobheed says its because we are bombing their homelands but is a bit shy of telling us what their homelands are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 9010 Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 we don't have decades left to disprove Enoch Powell. Decisive action should have been taken been decades ago, and the other nobheed says its because we are bombing their homelands but is a bit shy of telling us what their homelands are. Ok, a few things; 1) what's the rush? Why haven't we decades, centuries, millennia left? ii) Decisive action was taken decades ago, imperial powers from Europe and the west divided up great swathes of land carving through traditional tribal and religious boundaries, thereafter the companies and corporations of capitalism have created massive disparity in wealth, have supported regimes that provide cheaper resources for the rest of the world with nary a though for the people who are being kept under the boots of murderers, panderers and despots. You reap what you sow, and the rest of the world sowed seeds of discontent and fuelled the flames of corruption in what was always a fractious and unpredictable region. C) I don't understand the relationship your last accusation has to the rest of your post? Can you clarify? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 14060 Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 Enoch Powell's heemasexualist tendencies are well documented. I reckon most of his oratory was just denial rage over how much he secretly loved a mouthful of thick black cock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 14626 Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 mincepie=CT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClubSpinDoctor 0 Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 I heard all this carry on is hitting their electronics business hard, can't give these away http://www.tesco.com/direct/isis-39227-39-inch-full-hd-1080p-led-tv-with-freeview/488-9668.prd?skuId=488-9668 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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