Gemmill 34754 Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Ken, even if you're right, and this isn't a great England side, it's pretty irrelevant from the point of view of an Ashes series. The fact is that an Aussie team that have performed a lot better than most commentators expected them, to have played an England team that have played quite a bit worse than commentators expected them to, and face the very real prospect of going home on the wrong end of a 4 nil beating. All that matters for the purposes of this series is how the teams are relative to one another. And at the minute your lot are struggling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McFaul 35 Posted August 13, 2013 Author Share Posted August 13, 2013 You don't like cricket though do you? No it's shit, but they care and they're mouthy as fuck, so an England win is a good thing in my view. Scousers in the sun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken 119 Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 He doesn't like Australians more. That may be a possibility; He sees England's identity dissipating through the advent of the EU - the culling of England's culture by way of immigrant swamping and he's angry. Angry that large grabs of the former empire are left untouched by such political manouvres but the motherland is raped and pillaged. Either way, who gives a fuck - the fifth test starts soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 34754 Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 It was class hearing all the Aussie accents around yesterday btw. Felt really odd to have had them all descend on Durham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken 119 Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Ken, even if you're right, and this isn't a great England side, it's pretty irrelevant from the point of view of an Ashes series. The fact is that an Aussie team that have performed a lot better than most commentators expected them, to have played an England team that have played quite a bit worse than commentators expected them to, and face the very real prospect of going home on the wrong end of a 4 nil beating. All that matters for the purposes of this series is how the teams are relative to one another. And at the minute your lot are struggling. I concur. And I 'll cop it from cricket fans, but not blow-ins who know nothing about the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Ken, even if you're right, and this isn't a great England side, it's pretty irrelevant from the point of view of an Ashes series. The fact is that an Aussie team that have performed a lot better than most commentators expected them, to have played an England team that have played quite a bit worse than commentators expected them to, and face the very real prospect of going home on the wrong end of a 4 nil beating. All that matters for the purposes of this series is how the teams are relative to one another. And at the minute your lot are struggling. It's weird like as it's the most flattering 3-0 of all time as I don't believe that it's a great England side. More so I think Cook has a lot to learn as a captain despite all of the praise he seems to be getting at the moment. I think he's far too negative and not pragmatic enough. Imagine if our top order batsmen had turned up though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 34754 Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 I concur. And I 'll cop it from cricket fans, but not blow-ins who know nothing about the game. Fair dos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 34754 Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 It's weird like as it's the most flattering 3-0 of all time as I don't believe that it's a great England side. More so I think Cook has a lot to learn as a captain despite all of the praise he seems to be getting at the moment. I think he's far too negative and not pragmatic enough. Imagine if our top order batsmen had turned up though? Aye, it's felt like a pretty even series, with the exception of Lords, but England just keep turning up when it really matters and the Aussies don't. Winning habit maybe? I'd love to see Cook be more aggressive, but at the same time his record is ridiculously good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19861 Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 That's the thing. We have been well below our best and have still run away with it. It comes from a winning mentality. England have it right now. Oz have lost it. They've a lot of work to do between now and the return series in the winter. England can only get better, worryingly for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McFaul 35 Posted August 13, 2013 Author Share Posted August 13, 2013 I concur. And I 'll cop it from cricket fans, but not blow-ins who know nothing about the game. How I feel when you write about football tbf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken 119 Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 That's the thing. We have been well below our best and have still run away with it. It comes from a winning mentality. England have it right now. Oz have lost it. They've a lot of work to do between now and the return series in the winter. England can only get better, worryingly for them. No. It's not that Australia doesn't want to win, the will is there, it is the ability to do it. This batting lineup is fucked. On the plus side for Australia - England don't have a genuine all-rounder, and Graeme Swann is just an average bowler. Unfortunately no other weaknesses to report. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken 119 Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 How I feel when you write about football tbf. If that's the way you want to be, then so be it. You are a dreamer of past ways anyway I've always felt. I was a fan of German football long before it became fashionable again (2005-06). I think Jap football is the way of the future too (I've said that years ago too). But forget progression. Long live the hatchet man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 No. It's not that Australia doesn't want to win, the will is there, it is the ability to do it. This batting lineup is fucked. On the plus side for Australia - England don't have a genuine all-rounder, and Graeme Swann is just an average bowler. Unfortunately no other weaknesses to report. Who is also the leading wicket taker in the series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 If that's the way you want to be, then so be it. You are a dreamer of past ways anyway I've always felt. I was a fan of German football long before it became fashionable again (2005-06). I think Jap football is the way of the future too (I've said that years ago too). But forget progression. Long live the hatchet man. There is no such thing as the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1117 Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 I admit I've only recently started really getting into cricket but I thought Swann was widely regarded as one of the best spin bowlers in the world? Agree about the lack of an all rounder. It especially shows up when Priors battings shite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19861 Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 I'm struggling to think of a better spinner in recent years. He's bowled us to countless victories. Plus he's shown you don't have to be wrist spinner to be attacking and turn the ball a lot. Finger spinners were a bit of a dying breed in the test arena until he came along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 70 Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 Spin bowling is the heart of cricket imo. It was almost a dying art. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catmag 336 Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 @ Stevie - who posted this only yesterday on Twitter.. Leazeslad @leazeslad12 Aug Favourite this tweet if you don't give a fuck that we won the Ashes. I don't and that's me being honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 5941 Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 He won't pass up the chance to tar an entire nation with the same brush though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 34754 Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 I say it mainly cos I know he'll hate the comparison, but also because its true: Stevie is the Adrian Durham of my twitter timeline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McFaul 35 Posted August 14, 2013 Author Share Posted August 14, 2013 I say it mainly cos I know he'll hate the comparison, but also because its true: Stevie is the Adrian Durham of my twitter timeline. Pipe down you "you could hear them in Nairobi!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 5941 Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 I think Adrian Durham knowingly spouts shit to get a reaction though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McFaul 35 Posted August 14, 2013 Author Share Posted August 14, 2013 I think Adrian Durham knowingly spouts shit to get a reaction though Aye but at least he's not a deadly dull boring cunt from Chester Le Street. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 5941 Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 I'm sure he thanks God every day for that fact Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 14095 Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Aye but at least he's not a deadly dull boring cunt from Chester Le Street. I don't know if it's been mentioned in this thread yet, but I think that's where the cricket ground is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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