Alex 32840 Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 11 minutes ago, MMXXVIII said: Hoy the bat y'ginger twat. There's a fine line between being born in New Zealand and not being a cunt ye kna. He bats much better when he plays himself in though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMXXVIII 1219 Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 Just now, Alex said: He bats much better when he plays himself in though. Very true. Feels like emotion has taken control of his captaincy and I hope it pays off to my amazement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 32840 Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 4 minutes ago, MMXXVIII said: Very true. Feels like emotion has taken control of his captaincy and I hope it pays off to my amazement I wonder if he’ll bat more properly now he’s essentially a specialist batsman. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 20731 Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 One innings. That’s it. Cemented his place for years to come. So annoyed it was him. He won’t score more than 20 in 2nd innings or next test, or next series as he is a walking wicket. Could have been out 4 or 5 times, streaky score from an average to poor player. (if I keep saying this perhaps he’ll morph into the next Gooch) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinRobin 10161 Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Dr Gloom said: (if I keep saying this perhaps he’ll morph into the next Gooch) He'd need a complete personality bypass though 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 32840 Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 (edited) That’s a bit harsh I think. He rode his luck early on without a doubt. But he had much more controlled second half of his innings and played some lovely shots. I mean he’s never going to be great. But i don’t think there’s any better options out there. I think him and Duckett have the best record since Strauss / Cook as an opening partnership. I appreciate that says more about what’s come before than anything btw Edited July 21, 2023 by Alex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 15779 Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 Have Australia took one look at the weekends forecast and given up? 🤔 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 32840 Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 Bairstow 😂😂😂😂😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 39326 Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 Aussies -243/1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinRobin 10161 Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 12 hours ago, Alex said: Bairstow 😂😂😂😂😂 Why did he take that single? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 32840 Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 3 hours ago, RobinRobin said: Why did he take that single? I think he thought there were two when he set off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinRobin 10161 Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 1 hour ago, Alex said: I think he thought there were two when he set off Agreed but he should have been sure. Probably only shortened the innings by a couple of balls. Stokes was ready to declare as soon as he got there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 20731 Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 shame the weather robbed us of what looked like certain victory. we all knew it was coming though and after going too bazball with the early declaration at edgbaston, they went the other way this time, letting bairstow bat for too long. we should have declared at or before lunch on day 3, given we knew most of the weekend would be lost to rain. it was our only chance of forcing a win, and that was what the philosophy was supposed to be all about/ clinging on to a draw thanks to the weather is a bit of a flat way for the aussies to retain the urn. i think bazball works. it's great to watch, it's been a bloody brilliant series, and it feels to me like we won more sessions than we have lost. it just needs to be applied with more brains at times. it'll be interesting to see how they develop this playing style, and whether they can take it into the next series down under with a younger bowling attack. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 7757 Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 The schedule was ridiculous, forcing 5 tests into basically 6 weeks and expecting all of them to be played in full was madness, but can't affect the hundred (fucking shite). Going 2-0 down was the killer, we were bound to end up with a weather draw. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3543 Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 5 hours ago, Dr Gloom said: shame the weather robbed us of what looked like certain victory. we all knew it was coming though and after going too bazball with the early declaration at edgbaston, they went the other way this time, letting bairstow bat for too long. we should have declared at or before lunch on day 3, given we knew most of the weekend would be lost to rain. it was our only chance of forcing a win, and that was what the philosophy was supposed to be all about/ clinging on to a draw thanks to the weather is a bit of a flat way for the aussies to retain the urn. i think bazball works. it's great to watch, it's been a bloody brilliant series, and it feels to me like we won more sessions than we have lost. it just needs to be applied with more brains at times. it'll be interesting to see how they develop this playing style, and whether they can take it into the next series down under with a younger bowling attack. The weather didn’t rob us, dropped catches and shit batting lost us the ashes 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 32840 Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 (edited) Declaring earlier would’ve just meant Australia got ahead in terms of runs earlier, so it wouldn’t have made any difference given there was only about 3 hours play on the last two days combined. I actually think declaring would’ve made a draw even more certain. I think they did the right thing in hoping they might be able to just bat once and that there might just be enough play possible. At the time little or no play was expected on Saturday with Sunday looking much more promising. So they had the weather in mind but I think the way it transpired showed you can’t make plans for exactly how much time would’ve been lost. ‘Bazball’ working or not is just a daft way of looking at it though. When they went ultra aggressive they lost the first two tests. And the wicketkeeping errors, which were the result of a ‘Bazball’ selection, were also a huge factor in the defeats. Even headingley was less comfortable than it should’ve been because of reckless second innings batting. The only time England were massively dominant in a match was this one. And they actually scored more, at a faster rate overall, by taking stock at the end of day two and Stokes and Brook not giving it away. Obviously Crawley’s innings was a massive part of that and he created the early momentum. In other words it’s not one or the other, it’s applying the aggressive strategy with a bit of control at times. It’s not a choice between ‘Bazball’ or everyone batting like Chris Tavare. It is about winning though. It’s a fucking stupid term anyway. Even McCullum doesn’t like it. All the “I’m not a cricket fan but….” bellends can kiss my cheeks too tbh. They’ll be back on to love island and Arsenal podcasts now Australia have retained the ashes. I completely agree with TP about the mental schedule too. I do however think, given this Australia side are coming to the end of their cycle, that England possibly have their best chance in a while next time down under. They need to nurture some genuine quicks though. Wood has made a huge difference and a lot of the pitches will be similar to Headingley Edited July 24, 2023 by Alex 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 20731 Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 2 hours ago, Kevin Carr's Gloves said: The weather didn’t rob us, dropped catches and shit batting lost us the ashes The weather robbed us in this test match. We looked on course for a comfortable victory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 20731 Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 (edited) On the genuine quicks point, we have been desperately unlucky with the fitness of Archer, Wood and Stone. Those three plus Tongue, who was unlucky not to play more than a single test in this series, are the type of bowlers who could get some joy on Australian decks. Throw in Broad for a final Ashes tour if only so he can keep getting Warmer out Edited July 25, 2023 by Dr Gloom 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinRobin 10161 Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 7 hours ago, Dr Gloom said: On the genuine quicks point, we have been separately unlucky with the fitness of Archer, Wood and Stone. Those three plus Tongue, who was unlucky not to play more than a single test in this series, are the type of bowlers who could get some joy on Australian decks. Throw in Broad for a final Ashes tour if only so he can keep getting Warmer out He's lucky he is still getting picked. He wants to go out in the New Year test in Sydney anyway, but the only way he will still be there for that test is if the selectors fold to player power (which they usually do). If he hadn't got a double hundred in last year's Boxing Day test he would already have been on the scrap heap. Having said that, it is funny to see him getting out to Broad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinRobin 10161 Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 10 hours ago, Kevin Carr's Gloves said: The weather didn’t rob us, dropped catches and shit batting lost us the ashes I think you can probably accept the shit batting if not for those dropped catches in the first test. We should be 2-1 ahead. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 32840 Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 (edited) 11 hours ago, Dr Gloom said: On the genuine quicks point, we have been separately unlucky with the fitness of Archer, Wood and Stone. Those three plus Tongue, who was unlucky not to play more than a single test in this series, are the type of bowlers who could get some joy on Australian decks. Throw in Broad for a final Ashes tour if only so he can keep getting Warmer out Not a fucking chance Warner will still be in the side by the next Ashes. Agree about the quicks. The strategy should be around as many as possible being available next time round. Although I reckon Archer will probably concentrate on white ball cricket if he ever gets back to playing regularly Edited July 25, 2023 by Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinRobin 10161 Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Alex said: Although I reckon Archer will probably concentrate on white ball cricket if he ever gets back to playing regularly I agree. Can't see him standing up to test cricket, although Cummings had signficant injury issues when he first came onto the scene and came back many years later to be the second best bowler in the world in the ICC rankings. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spongebob toonpants 3739 Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 FFS. A good old fashioned batting collapse That Root will never make a test batsman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinRobin 10161 Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 You would hope it shuts that twat Morgan up though. Getting enough shit already about whinging Poms. There seems to be a push for reserve days which is ridiculous. The number of times I have prayed for rain. 🙂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 7757 Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 22 minutes ago, RobinRobin said: You would hope it shuts that twat Morgan up though. Getting enough shit already about whinging Poms. There seems to be a push for reserve days which is ridiculous. The number of times I have prayed for rain. 🙂 I don't have any desire for "reserve days", but I would say the arbitrary cut off at 1800 if all the overs haven't been bowled and the light is OK is bollocks. Should play until overs are done, or light is shit, with a later cut off of something like 2000 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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