Rayvin 6709 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 I'd give him space. Or send him into it rather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACKANDWHITEGEORDIE 0 Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 Why doesn't Shelvey give a s**t where we finish. Because no matter what happens he will still be on £80 grand a week in the Championship. Maybe he is the major cause of the dressing room unrest. Nice one Ashley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 5825 Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 Why doesn't Shelvey give a s**t where we finish. Because no matter what happens he will still be on £80 grand a week in the Championship. Maybe he is the major cause of the dressing room unrest. Nice one Ashley. To get to the other side Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobos 299 Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 I'm not feeling too harsh about him, he's better than I thought he would be when we signed him. He's only been here a few months, some peeps here can be very harsh on players - give him at least a season before we judge him too harshly. Â What I don't get about him, is how in some games he can put in defence splitting positive forward passes and in others can't pass more than 5 feet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1480 Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 I'm not feeling too harsh about him, he's better than I thought he would be when we signed him. He's only been here a few months, some peeps here can be very harsh on players - give him at least a season before we judge him too harshly. Â What I don't get about him, is how in some games he can put in defence splitting positive forward passes and in others can't pass more than 5 feet. I wouldn't write him off yet but so far he's been just as I expected other than his first game. After which plenty of people were already proclaiming him to be a quality player and the missing piece of our midfield. He's been rank average since then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4812 Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 Strikes me as a player who does well when there's no pressure or when things are going well but not so much when the shit hits the fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobos 299 Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 looking that way so far DK / NJS. I thought he was a terrible signing, but I've been impressed with his attitude, at least he appears to care most of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 8150 Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 Eh He looks like he cares less than anyone over the last few games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trophyshy 7726 Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 He looks like he could care less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 34982 Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 He looks like he could care less. Â Possibly the most annoying American phrase in existence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 53723 Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 America could care less what you think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dickie 0 Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 I think I'm in the minority here but I think he has the potential to be one of the best midfielders in Europe. I am being very speculative here but there's not many players with his range of passing and the vision and execution to play defence-splitting passes. However he's clearly a bit of a fragile character, and he definitely hasn't covered himself in glory since coming here. But with a top manager behind him giving the belief and direction he needs, I really think he's got a pretty rare talent that can be transferred to champions league and international football. Obviously he's not going to get champions league football at NUFC cos we're going down, but I honestly think he has that level of potential. Although he's a different sort of midfielder, his situation reminds me a bit of Rob Lee when Keegan signed him - obviously a good player that a few clubs were interested in, and looked quality straight away, but no-one could have predicted how he would develop into arguably the best midfielder in the country over the next 3-4 seasons under an inspirational manager and in a good team. Lee was a couple of years older than Shelvey when he signed as well. With his style of play Shelvey might benefit from going to play in Spain, if he was interested in a move there - basically I see him as a higher quality version of Vinny Samways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 11647 Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 I think I'm in the minority here but I think he has the potential to be one of the best midfielders in Europe. I am being very speculative here but there's not many players with his range of passing and the vision and execution to play defence-splitting passes. However he's clearly a bit of a fragile character, and he definitely hasn't covered himself in glory since coming here. But with a top manager behind him giving the belief and direction he needs, I really think he's got a pretty rare talent that can be transferred to champions league and international football. Obviously he's not going to get champions league football at NUFC cos we're going down, but I honestly think he has that level of potential. Although he's a different sort of midfielder, his situation reminds me a bit of Rob Lee when Keegan signed him - obviously a good player that a few clubs were interested in, and looked quality straight away, but no-one could have predicted how he would develop into arguably the best midfielder in the country over the next 3-4 seasons under an inspirational manager and in a good team. Lee was a couple of years older than Shelvey when he signed as well. With his style of play Shelvey might benefit from going to play in Spain, if he was interested in a move there - basically I see him as a higher quality version of Vinny Samways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 8262 Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 I think he'll be excellent in the Championship if his heart is in it. Â We need to shift out the likes of Sissoko, Thauvin, Tiote, Cisse, Anita, Obertan, Riviere the moment the season ends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 8150 Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 (edited) Dickie behave man, Silva, Pogba, Pirlo, Iniesta, Toure, Snjeider, Ribery, Kroos, Shelvey  It takes a lot more than nailing a 60 yard assist once every 10 games to become a world class midfielder. Not losing the ball every 3rd touch, scoring goals, putting a tackle in and tracking back would be a good start Edited April 13, 2016 by StraightEdgeWizard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dickie 0 Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 Dickie behave man, Silva, Pogba, Pirlo, Iniesta, Toure, Snjeider, Ribery, Kroos, Shelvey  It takes a lot more than nailing a 60 yard assist once every 10 games to become a world class midfielder. Not losing the ball every 3rd touch, scoring goals, putting a tackle in and tracking back would be a good start  Fair enough mate . I expected to get ridicule on here for my opinion of Shelvey, as I have already had it off mates and family. As I said, I know I am being very speculative based on glimpses here and here and you are right with your comments but I think he could move up a few levels with the right manager behind him and in the right team, just like Lee did, but to a greater extent. Pirlo never scored that many goals, never put in a tackle and never tracked back but he managed OK. Likewise Rui Costa, Valeron, Riquelme etc... hence my comment about playing in Spain where a centre mid can get a bit more time on the ball and fewer defensive responsibilities. Anyway that's my opinion and I totally understand why people might find it a bit ridiculous, but there it is! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gpirlo68 0 Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 I think I'm in the minority here but I think he has the potential to be one of the best midfielders in Europe. You're right about the minority bit, I'll give you that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 15480 Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 Maybe if everyone called him 'Jonjo Baaldy' over and over, he'd leave and we'll get rid of his wages Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gpirlo68 0 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 Is it a coincidence that Swanseas results improved straight after dropping Shelvey and the same has happened with us? Â I know Swanseas result have pittered out but that's because they're safe now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 5605 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 I've took a bit of a dislike to him. Think he runs like a twat too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gpirlo68 0 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 Looks knackered after been on for 3 minutes. He's been poor under Rafa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 24676 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 (edited) I think someone said it on here after his first away performance - he's a textbook luxury player. His range of passing can be destructive if you're playing at home against a team who are dropping off but he's next to useless in the deep lying central position against a team who are pressing. Â My only hope for him is if Rafa stays on and is able to get him to buy into his coaching philosophy. I don't think his work rate is enough currently for him to properly make it in the premier league. Edited May 1, 2016 by Dr Gloom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoneColdStephenIreland 74 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 Yeah I think in a relegation battle he's a player you can't really accomodate for. He's a better player than Colback but Colback is the sort of player we need in these next couple games I comparison to Shelvey. Â (Never thought in a million fucking years I'd write that last sentence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gpirlo68 0 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 I think Colback has done well since coming into the side, worked hard and grabbed himself a goal put in a great cross yesterday with Sissoko should have done better with. Â Such a shame with Shelvey, was nice to see a player for us who can pick out a pass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 8150 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 Sissoko wants shooting for his ridiculous flick yesterday. Mitro would have buried that with his head Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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