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Why doesn't Shelvey give a s**t where we finish. Because no matter what happens he will still be on £80 grand a week in the Championship. Maybe he is the major cause of the dressing room unrest. Nice one Ashley.

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I'm not feeling too harsh about him, he's better than I thought he would be when we signed him. He's only been here a few months, some peeps here can be very harsh on players - give him at least a season before we judge him too harshly.

 

What I don't get about him, is how in some games he can put in defence splitting positive forward passes and in others can't pass more than 5 feet.

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I'm not feeling too harsh about him, he's better than I thought he would be when we signed him. He's only been here a few months, some peeps here can be very harsh on players - give him at least a season before we judge him too harshly.

 

What I don't get about him, is how in some games he can put in defence splitting positive forward passes and in others can't pass more than 5 feet.

I wouldn't write him off yet but so far he's been just as I expected other than his first game. After which plenty of people were already proclaiming him to be a quality player and the missing piece of our midfield. He's been rank average since then.
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I think I'm in the minority here but I think he has the potential to be one of the best midfielders in Europe. I am being very speculative here but there's not many players with his range of passing and the vision and execution to play defence-splitting passes. However he's clearly a bit of a fragile character, and he definitely hasn't covered himself in glory since coming here. But with a top manager behind him giving the belief and direction he needs, I really think he's got a pretty rare talent that can be transferred to champions league and international football. Obviously he's not going to get champions league football at NUFC cos we're going down, but I honestly think he has that level of potential. Although he's a different sort of midfielder, his situation reminds me a bit of Rob Lee when Keegan signed him - obviously a good player that a few clubs were interested in, and looked quality straight away, but no-one could have predicted how he would develop into arguably the best midfielder in the country over the next 3-4 seasons under an inspirational manager and in a good team. Lee was a couple of years older than Shelvey when he signed as well. With his style of play Shelvey might benefit from going to play in Spain, if he was interested in a move there - basically I see him as a higher quality version of Vinny Samways :D

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I think I'm in the minority here but I think he has the potential to be one of the best midfielders in Europe. I am being very speculative here but there's not many players with his range of passing and the vision and execution to play defence-splitting passes. However he's clearly a bit of a fragile character, and he definitely hasn't covered himself in glory since coming here. But with a top manager behind him giving the belief and direction he needs, I really think he's got a pretty rare talent that can be transferred to champions league and international football. Obviously he's not going to get champions league football at NUFC cos we're going down, but I honestly think he has that level of potential. Although he's a different sort of midfielder, his situation reminds me a bit of Rob Lee when Keegan signed him - obviously a good player that a few clubs were interested in, and looked quality straight away, but no-one could have predicted how he would develop into arguably the best midfielder in the country over the next 3-4 seasons under an inspirational manager and in a good team. Lee was a couple of years older than Shelvey when he signed as well. With his style of play Shelvey might benefit from going to play in Spain, if he was interested in a move there - basically I see him as a higher quality version of Vinny Samways :D

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Dickie behave man, Silva, Pogba, Pirlo, Iniesta, Toure, Snjeider, Ribery, Kroos, Shelvey

 

It takes a lot more than nailing a 60 yard assist once every 10 games to become a world class midfielder. Not losing the ball every 3rd touch, scoring goals, putting a tackle in and tracking back would be a good start

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Dickie behave man, Silva, Pogba, Pirlo, Iniesta, Toure, Snjeider, Ribery, Kroos, Shelvey

 

It takes a lot more than nailing a 60 yard assist once every 10 games to become a world class midfielder. Not losing the ball every 3rd touch, scoring goals, putting a tackle in and tracking back would be a good start

 

Fair enough mate :lol: . I expected to get ridicule on here for my opinion of Shelvey, as I have already had it off mates and family. As I said, I know I am being very speculative based on glimpses here and here and you are right with your comments but I think he could move up a few levels with the right manager behind him and in the right team, just like Lee did, but to a greater extent. Pirlo never scored that many goals, never put in a tackle and never tracked back but he managed OK. Likewise Rui Costa, Valeron, Riquelme etc... hence my comment about playing in Spain where a centre mid can get a bit more time on the ball and fewer defensive responsibilities. Anyway that's my opinion and I totally understand why people might find it a bit ridiculous, but there it is!

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I think someone said it on here after his first away performance - he's a textbook luxury player. His range of passing can be destructive if you're playing at home against a team who are dropping off but he's next to useless in the deep lying central position against a team who are pressing.

 

My only hope for him is if Rafa stays on and is able to get him to buy into his coaching philosophy. I don't think his work rate is enough currently for him to properly make it in the premier league.

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