The Fish 8947 Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 1 hour ago, Gemmill said: Chelsea acting like pure fucking bellends this season and spending more than all the other leagues put together has brought a lot of this on. After Real Madrid and Barcelona have been taking the piss with their wages for decades, this is rank protectionism. Won't our tax rates mean that it's harder for us to offer similar net wages than it is in more loosey goosey countries? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26160 Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 It's communism is what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30236 Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 Could see the threat of the ESL again, which basically just seems to be a tool for Uefa to pipe down at this point 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v.old 76 Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 The genie is out of the bottle on this, don’t know why UEFA can’t get it; they already let it happen. Are selling clubs really going to want artificially depressed revenues from mega-rich buying clubs observing spending limits in the interests of, ahem, equality? The motivation for back door off the books payments would massively increase. The game would be more corrupt 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 8947 Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 Aye it'll keep being used as a bogeyman, until the established elite get all the benefits the ESL without having to leave the CL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 8947 Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 A hard wage cap is surely quite easily circumvented with larger signing fees, performance bonuses, etc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 16484 Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 16 minutes ago, Alex said: Could see the threat of the ESL again, which basically just seems to be a tool for Uefa to pipe down at this point I think its inevitable that a ESL will happen. With the continuing of rising wages / fees the current model just cannot sustain it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19728 Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 8 minutes ago, wykikitoon said: I think its inevitable that a ESL will happen. With the continuing of rising wages / fees the current model just cannot sustain it. the only way it works is with promotion/relegation 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12447 Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, The Fish said: After Real Madrid and Barcelona have been taking the piss with their wages for decades, this is rank protectionism. Won't our tax rates mean that it's harder for us to offer similar net wages than it is in more loosey goosey countries? Spot on, they’ve been wanking themselves silly over Real Madrid winning CL after CL with their fucking super team, the wages of Bale, Benzema, and Ronaldo alone would have been eye watering let alone the rest of their team. We’ve had years of Italian sides dominating Europe, years of Spanish sides, what’s the difference if it’s a few years of Premier League dominance? This constant outrage that football was this totally equal game and has now been ruined is laughable, just like the whinging about Man City winning a few titles in a row conveniently ignores the fucking dominance of Manchester United and how they drained the best talents from all other PL sides for yonks. For a long time Barca and Real Madrid enjoyed massive financial advantage over the PL sides since they hoovered up the lions share of TV rights while the PL sides had more of an even split - again something conveniently ignored now the PL sides are getting similar TV revenue despite the more even split across the league. Edited June 1, 2023 by Howay 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 34166 Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 Aye everyone talks about Ferguson's 13 titles with complete reverence. Man City win a few and the game needs ripped up and starting all over again. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 8947 Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 1 hour ago, Gemmill said: Aye everyone talks about Ferguson's 13 titles with complete reverence. Man City win a few and the game needs ripped up and starting all over again. Oh that's because Manchester United did it organically. Y'know, aside from buying the best players in the league from their rivals like Berbatov, Cantona, Carrick, Cole, Ferdinand, Keane, Lukaku, Maguire, Mata, Rooney, Sheringham, van Persie, Yorke... Or spending inordinate sums of money on foreign stars like Di Maria €75m, Pogba €105m, Sancho €85m, van Nistelrooy €28.5m, Veron €42m. Since the PL began, they've spent over €15m on a player 50 times, spending as an average €40.2m 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 14524 Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 22 minutes ago, The Fish said: Oh that's because Manchester United did it organically. Y'know, aside from buying the best players in the league from their rivals like Berbatov, Cantona, Carrick, Cole, Ferdinand, Keane, Lukaku, Maguire, Mata, Rooney, Sheringham, van Persie, Yorke... Or spending inordinate sums of money on foreign stars like Di Maria €75m, Pogba €105m, Sancho €85m, van Nistelrooy €28.5m, Veron €42m. Since the PL began, they've spent over €15m on a player 50 times, spending as an average €40.2m This post is so good Dave I’ve screen shot it and posted it on Twitter in reply to a manc in floods of tears because we’re owned by murderers 😊 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 16484 Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 2 hours ago, The Fish said: Oh that's because Manchester United did it organically. Y'know, aside from buying the best players in the league from their rivals like Berbatov, Cantona, Carrick, Cole, Ferdinand, Keane, Lukaku, Maguire, Mata, Rooney, Sheringham, van Persie, Yorke... Or spending inordinate sums of money on foreign stars like Di Maria €75m, Pogba €105m, Sancho €85m, van Nistelrooy €28.5m, Veron €42m. Since the PL began, they've spent over €15m on a player 50 times, spending as an average €40.2m Wow, Southampton!! That's shocked me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30236 Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 I think Man Utd broke the British transfer record about 3 or 4 times (just under Ferguson) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 16484 Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Alex said: I think Man Utd broke the British transfer record about 3 or 4 times (just under Ferguson) Cole Duck Lip Veron They were only spending the Mark Hughes & Ray Wilkins money though. Edited June 1, 2023 by wykikitoon 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 16484 Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 Looking at the British transfer record, is interesting. All the talk of City spending, they have broken it twice. The last time was in '08 with Robinhio. Again, Man Utd have broken it more! Liverpool surprisingly have only broken it once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spongebob toonpants 3583 Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 4 hours ago, The Fish said: Oh that's because Manchester United did it organically. Y'know, aside from buying the best players in the league from their rivals like Berbatov, Cantona, Carrick, Cole, Ferdinand, Keane, Lukaku, Maguire, Mata, Rooney, Sheringham, van Persie, Yorke... Or spending inordinate sums of money on foreign stars like Di Maria €75m, Pogba €105m, Sancho €85m, van Nistelrooy €28.5m, Veron €42m. Since the PL began, they've spent over €15m on a player 50 times, spending as an average €40.2m We're going to fucking fly up that list, and it will be a beautiful sight 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 38544 Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 10 minutes ago, wykikitoon said: Looking at the British transfer record, is interesting. All the talk of City spending, they have broken it twice. The last time was in '08 with Robinhio. Again, Man Utd have broken it more! Liverpool surprisingly have only broken it once. It may have been on here, or somewhere else, but I saw a list of transfers that were adjusted to today’s values, and Shearer’s was way out in front at £222 million. I absolutely expect that we’ll break our own record at some point in the near future. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 5881 Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2023/jun/03/the-billionaires-have-won-english-pubs-forced-to-close-after-owners-demand-full-rent-for-lockdown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26160 Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 I guess they should have accepted the initial deal then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 34166 Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 1 hour ago, ewerk said: I guess they should have accepted the initial deal then. ... said Belfast's Mike Ashley, as he selected a cigar from his humidor and reached for his gold cigar-cutter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Winston 41 Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 Anyone know when membership for the 23/24 season will be up for sale? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinRobin 9162 Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 3 hours ago, Winston said: Anyone know when membership for the 23/24 season will be up for sale? Ask UM 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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