ohhh_yeah 1449 Posted May 6 Report Share Posted May 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t00nraider2 32 Posted May 7 Report Share Posted May 7 If he had better midfielders around him, he'd get more goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 3374 Posted May 7 Report Share Posted May 7 Keep him til January and then sell him on for £12.5mil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 22203 Posted May 7 Report Share Posted May 7 2 hours ago, t00nraider2 said: If he had better midfielders around him, he'd get more goals. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 8706 Posted May 7 Author Report Share Posted May 7 Aye, we should have kept Hendrick to lay them on for him like at Burnley 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinRobin 3386 Posted May 7 Report Share Posted May 7 6 hours ago, t00nraider2 said: If he had better midfielders around him, he'd get more goals. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohhh_yeah 1449 Posted May 7 Report Share Posted May 7 8 hours ago, t00nraider2 said: If he had better midfielders around him, he'd get more goals. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 2654 Posted June 7 Report Share Posted June 7 The anti stats brigade will hate this one, but thought this was interesting regarding big Chris. https://theathletic.com/3346644/2022/06/07/premier-league-pass-networks/ Quote Highest share of receiving value: Passing value isn’t just created by the player behind the ball — receivers matter too. After Pukki, whose 30.5 per cent share of Norwich’s receiving value led the league, the next two possession value leaders for passes received were Newcastle’s centre-forward in a 4-3-3 and Burnley’s left forward in a 4-4-2. Notice what those have in common? They’re mostly the same guy: Chris Wood, who may have helped flip the Premier League relegation race when he took his talents to Tyneside in January. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 7380 Posted June 7 Report Share Posted June 7 28 minutes ago, Andrew said: The anti stats brigade will hate this one, but thought this was interesting regarding big Chris. https://theathletic.com/3346644/2022/06/07/premier-league-pass-networks/ If you’re including me in this alleged “anti stats brigade” then I’d suggest you look at posts of those who criticised Wood the most. This stat appears to me to be useful because it’s an observable skill, not some mythical “X” bollocks…my opinion of Wood is that for all his size he wasn’t a typical target men/back to goal style centre forward…mostly when he received the ball outside the penalty area he looked to move it on as quickly as possible, sometimes into the space a defender has vacated who was attracted towards him due to his physical size..don’t know if that fits in with your stat but I could see with my own eyes the value of that to the way Howe wanted the team to play 👍 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 2654 Posted June 7 Report Share Posted June 7 6 minutes ago, PaddockLad said: If you’re including me in this alleged “anti stats brigade” then I’d suggest you look at posts of those who criticised Wood the most. I didn't name any names, if you want to infer that, it is up to you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 8217 Posted June 7 Report Share Posted June 7 Esteemed company with that stat. Personally I think he’s a heap of shite. He helped keep us up, but his finishing is fucking criminal - I hope I don’t have to see him play much in future unless it’s against us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 7380 Posted June 7 Report Share Posted June 7 The internet: no such thing as an “alright” footballer…they’re all either “world class” or “shit” 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 8217 Posted June 7 Report Share Posted June 7 Just now, PaddockLad said: The internet: no such thing as an “alright” footballer…they’re all either “world class” or “shit” If you’re reading it that way, I’d say players like Krafth, Shelvey, Murphy, Fraser, and others were “alright” but yeah Wood was shit. I think if a forwards best contribution for a season was to be a lump that basically brought the ball down on long punts forward and did it as effectively as the forward for the worst side in the league, then nah I don’t think he’s alright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 16256 Posted June 7 Report Share Posted June 7 (edited) Is there a case for Wood? I’d genuinely love to hear someone try to put it forward. From what I’ve seen we may as well have put a 6ft+ midfielder or defender up top to try to win the long ball and lay it off. Their finishing would have been equally as effective. Edited June 7 by ewerk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 7380 Posted June 7 Report Share Posted June 7 6 minutes ago, Howay said: If you’re reading it that way, I’d say players like Krafth, Shelvey, Murphy, Fraser, and others were “alright” but yeah Wood was shit. I think if a forwards best contribution for a season was to be a lump that basically brought the ball down on long punts forward and did it as effectively as the forward for the worst side in the league, then nah I don’t think he’s alright. Fair enough, you did say that he contributed to survival too… I wasn’t suggesting that a comparison with Pukki was worthwhile either, but for clubs on a budget buying players with one main skill that isn’t immediately obvious but can be proven with stats is sometimes a way to steal a march on those around you. The first Moneyball book goes into all that. I think Wood was well worth the money we paid for what he contributed . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 10145 Posted June 8 Report Share Posted June 8 8 hours ago, Andrew said: I didn't name any names, if you want to infer that, it is up to you! NAME AND SHAME! Is it me? I don’t rate Wood and find the modern obsession with meaningless stats such as xG frankly bizarre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 18679 Posted June 8 Report Share Posted June 8 The xG dopes are back and in full effect. "mythical....meaningless" Thick. As. Mince. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 7380 Posted June 8 Report Share Posted June 8 8 minutes ago, Gemmill said: The xG dopes are back and in full effect. "mythical....meaningless" Thick. As. Mince. Morning Gemma, here, get the oriental rodent throbbing to all this!! https://understat.com/player/4456 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 10145 Posted June 8 Report Share Posted June 8 22 minutes ago, Gemmill said: The xG dopes are back and in full effect. "mythical....meaningless" Thick. As. Mince. fighting talk from the so-called accountant 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 10145 Posted June 8 Report Share Posted June 8 (edited) 2 hours ago, PaddockLad said: Morning Gemma, here, get the oriental rodent throbbing to all this!! https://understat.com/player/4456 xGbuildup90 Edited June 8 by Dr Gloom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 2709 Posted June 8 Report Share Posted June 8 10 hours ago, Howay said: Esteemed company with that stat. Personally I think he’s a heap of shite. He helped keep us up, but his finishing is fucking criminal - I hope I don’t have to see him play much in future unless it’s against us. That's a future free bet for Gemmill, first goal scorer "Chris Wood" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 7607 Posted November 9 Report Share Posted November 9 Just listening to Mondays total sport. They had a post match interview with Wood. Superb attitude on him. Glad he scored at the weekend and hope he gets a chance again tonight. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 7380 Posted November 9 Report Share Posted November 9 Again it’s credit to Howe keeping the likes of Wood and Lascelles happy. Trippier helps as well, putting the armband on Lascelles when he comes on the pitch 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrokendoll 3399 Posted November 9 Report Share Posted November 9 On 11/01/2022 at 18:36, Ayatollah Hermione said: Having a medical tonight. Chris Wood? More like Chris Has! Signed that is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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