Alexander Isak

[Andrew 7478]

Just now, Tom said:

What were the exact terms?

 

I’m happy to be honest with it, makes no odds in the long run. In my mind I’d already sacrificed the money  

I reckoned Isak will still be here in september.

Thats the entire idea.

[Tom 15528]

Dealio 🫡

[Meenzer 18039]

1 hour ago, thebrokendoll said:

 

sorry to hear about your folks mate. 

my mother is 84 and about 5 years in to dementia.  my old man has just turned 88 and apart from daily morning visits from care workers has largely took on the role himself. 

horrendous to watch, he looks really frail now and it's a cunt being 300 mile away and not being able to do more. 

on a lighter note,  I was completely bullshitting about battered pickled onions and mushy peas, which is probably why wykiki stopped engaging. the wetherby whaler however is genuinely superb, famously so, considering it must be what, 60 mile away from the sea? 

highly recommended, as is a visit to the riverside from which to eat them on a sunny evening.

avoid the local servive station like the plague though, particularly after an 8pm kick off home game, by the time you get there everything will be closed.

the cunts. 

 

Very similar situation with my lot - they're a little younger and in my mam's case it's a Parkinsons/dementia double-header, but otherwise the setup and timeframe are very familiar indeed. My dad recently managed to dislocate the artificial hip he'd only just had fitted in April after shattering the real one. He'd already done the other one the summer before last.  Anyway, he's finally accepted that a few weeks of respite care for her would do him good while he's still hobbling around, so I was up there today with them looking at somewhere to make sure it's suitable, will be back again early next week to handhold the actual move, and so on and so forth. I'm grateful for being a bit closer than you are - it's part of the reason we moved here, still commutable to London when required but takes a good chunk out of the trip to Newcastle - but I nevertheless did not expect to be effectively doing a 3½-hour commute up the A1 on a regular basis. It's got to the point where I'm grateful to have discovered a quiet McDonalds with a decent suntrap of a garden just off the main road south of Doncaster, so battered goods on a bench by the riverside sounds positively idyllic by comparison.  Definitely one for next week I reckon (now watch the heatwave come to an abrupt end...)

[Meenzer 18039]

On the topic at hand, I thought I'd use my "more rudimentary than it should be considering my mam's from there" Swedish and take a look below the line on the main news sites' articles about the Isak situation. It's mostly people saying he's wrong to go on strike, a handful of entitled Liverpool fans saying the kind of things you'd expect, one lad saying Isak should go back to Nigeria (!) and another one insisting the journalist has made a crucial mistake with the pounds sterling to Swedish krona exchange rate. Standard stuff, basically.

[Kitman 2869]

2 hours ago, wykikitoon said:

I'd love that just to see the fewm from Liverpool fans when we accept £120m 🤣

If we can sell him for decent wedge to an overseas club I'd be delighted. It would also show we won't stand for being treated like mugs....as you say the outrage that we refused to take it up the chufter like good little boys would be delicious.

 

Isak deserves to rot in the reserves really but if we can ship him overseas and forget about him, and use the money to kick on as a club, that draws a line under the whole thing.

[Rayvin 8362]

I imagine it's a fantasy but I'd love the Barcelona outcome even at the knock down price.

[GrahamTaylor5 1783]

1 minute ago, Rayvin said:

I imagine it's a fantasy but I'd love the Barcelona outcome even at the knock down price.

It is the principle.

[RobinRobin 14502]

5 hours ago, Meenzer said:

 

I was going to ask if they're decent but I suppose you wouldn't keep going back if they weren't.  With both of my parents gradually falling to bits, these days I'm up and down the A1 more often than [I can't think of a decent euphemism so I'll let someone else fill me in] and I could use a stop-off that's not just yet another M&S sandwich because the queue for Greggs at Wetherby services is out the door and half way round the car park again.

[RobinRobin 14502]

16 hours ago, Craig said:

"...and Neville agrees with me..."

Good for Neville. 

 

16 hours ago, Craig said:

"...and Neville agrees with me..."

Good for Neville. 

[Gemmill 63200]

I'd love to think that Lewandowski to Saudi for £100m is something we/PIF have instigated with Barca, and that the next move in the choreography is for them to come in with a huge bid for Isak. 

 

It would be one thing for this to just fall into our lap, but it would be something else entirely if we're making it happen behind the scenes to fuck Liverpool. 

[Gemmill 63200]

Btw sorry to hear about your parents tbd and Meenzer. Sounds awful, and especially to be hundreds of miles away must make it really difficult.

[Gemmill 63200]

Also shocked to hear that chips cooked in vegetable oil are woke. 

[OTF 10613]

10 hours ago, Alex said:

The fact is £150m may be OTT. But the way Liverpool, Isak, his agent and cunts like Ornstein have behaved is the precise reason the club is taking this hardline stance. 

It's only over the top because he has three years to run on his contract. If you want someone else's player who still has three years to run there is a premium to pay for it. For one it means we haven't written down the costs of purchasing him, which were significant, and also we haven't got the best years out of him. The value of a player is contextual in relation to their contract status. Next year with two years to run on his contract that value may be £120m but then we've amortised his cost down by £11+ m and have had another seasons use of him. Factor that in along with a minor inconvenience fee and that's where the £150m becomes what it takes to buy that calibre of player who is not for sale.

[Toonpack 15593]

8 hours ago, trooper said:

One of my sons just sent me this not sure how true it is mind

 

 

That's basically just what the player contract allows the club to do, whether they choose to is another matter. 

[Toonpack 15593]

15 minutes ago, OTF said:

It's only over the top because he has three years to run on his contract. If you want someone else's player who still has three years to run there is a premium to pay for it. For one it means we haven't written down the costs of purchasing him, which were significant, and also we haven't got the best years out of him. The value of a player is contextual in relation to their contract status. Next year with two years to run on his contract that value may be £120m but then we've amortised his cost down by £11+ m and have had another seasons use of him. Factor that in along with a minor inconvenience fee and that's where the £150m becomes what it takes to buy that calibre of player who is not for sale.

 

Exactly, to clear circa £100 Mill profit, we need £150 Mill, we've still got £30 Mill amortisation to clear plus the sell on %.

[Toonpack 15593]

1 hour ago, Gemmill said:

Also shocked to hear that chips cooked in vegetable oil are woke. 

[Kitman 2869]

2 hours ago, OTF said:

It's only over the top because he has three years to run on his contract. If you want someone else's player who still has three years to run there is a premium to pay for it. For one it means we haven't written down the costs of purchasing him, which were significant, and also we haven't got the best years out of him. The value of a player is contextual in relation to their contract status. Next year with two years to run on his contract that value may be £120m but then we've amortised his cost down by £11+ m and have had another seasons use of him. Factor that in along with a minor inconvenience fee and that's where the £150m becomes what it takes to buy that calibre of player who is not for sale.

When you've set our star striker and the media against us, in a bid to get a knockdown price, we can quote you whatever the fuck we like. We're under no obligation to play fair with dishonourable cunts.

[GrahamTaylor5 1783]

How do we go from a season of the prices in the media coming out with "If Isak had been in the Arsenal line up instead of the NUFC line up the outcome would have been completely different".

"Isak was the real game changer."

"Arsenal are really missing an Alexander Isak".

Basically, if they were correct, 2024-2025 Premier League Champions would have been Arsenal instead of Liverpool. 

2025 League Cup winners are Liverpool (even if he had went to Arsenal)

How is he not a £150m player then?

TAA commanded a £9m transfer fee for 1 month and a pointless tournament. 

 

[Dazzler 16199]

10 minutes ago, GrahamTaylor5 said:

How do we go from a season of the prices in the media coming out with "If Isak had been in the Arsenal line up instead of the NUFC line up the outcome would have been completely different".

"Isak was the real game changer."

"Arsenal are really missing an Alexander Isak".

Basically, if they were correct, 2024-2025 Premier League Champions would have been Arsenal instead of Liverpool. 

2025 League Cup winners are Liverpool (even if he had went to Arsenal)

How is he not a £150m player then?

TAA commanded a £9m transfer fee for 1 month and a pointless tournament. 

 

Because TAA played for the media darlings and global powerhouse that believes itself to be a plucky underdog. Isak plays in the minor leagues for a team that bested them in their only cup final last season, and had the beating of them in the league were it not for a ref who was as cowardly as he was corrupt.

[Craig 12383]

11 hours ago, wykikitoon said:

I'd love that just to see the fewm from Liverpool fans when we accept £120m 🤣

Especially if they come in with £130m and we still go with the lower bid given he'd toddle off abroad. 

Be karma for those fucks ridiculing us that Sesko went to Man Utd for a lower bid.

[Renton 27784]

10 hours ago, Meenzer said:

 

Very similar situation with my lot - they're a little younger and in my mam's case it's a Parkinsons/dementia double-header, but otherwise the setup and timeframe are very familiar indeed. My dad recently managed to dislocate the artificial hip he'd only just had fitted in April after shattering the real one. He'd already done the other one the summer before last.  Anyway, he's finally accepted that a few weeks of respite care for her would do him good while he's still hobbling around, so I was up there today with them looking at somewhere to make sure it's suitable, will be back again early next week to handhold the actual move, and so on and so forth. I'm grateful for being a bit closer than you are - it's part of the reason we moved here, still commutable to London when required but takes a good chunk out of the trip to Newcastle - but I nevertheless did not expect to be effectively doing a 3½-hour commute up the A1 on a regular basis. It's got to the point where I'm grateful to have discovered a quiet McDonalds with a decent suntrap of a garden just off the main road south of Doncaster, so battered goods on a bench by the riverside sounds positively idyllic by comparison.  Definitely one for next week I reckon (now watch the heatwave come to an abrupt end...)

 

Dealing with parents as they age is one of the worst thing about being our age. I literally live next door to my mum which obviously means I can help out loads but otoh also means I get no respite from her and her increasingly strange judgemental views. She doesn't have the issues your parents have so far thankfully.

 

Sounds horrible but I dread her developing a really serious illness (will likely be a stroke in her case) more than her dying, but then again, I feel the same about myself tbh. Meanwhile my brother is well away from the situation, does fuck all to help ever, and of course is the golden boy. Oh well.

[trooper 1058]

Reading between the lines. It sounds like Howe's tried to speak to him about joing the team this weekend & he's refused.. Th8s from the presser

Has Eddie asked Alex to be involved this weekend

 

 

Of course, I've said many times I want him to train and play and I've had those conversations with him but the details of these conversations need to remain private.

[OTF 10613]

2 hours ago, Kitman said:

When you've set our star striker and the media against us, in a bid to get a knockdown price, we can quote you whatever the fuck we like. We're under no obligation to play fair with dishonourable cunts.

True. All said and done £150m would have been a sufficient amount to come and buy him honourably without trying to strongarm us via the media and agents.

 

They've acted without honour, and so unfortunately has Isak. The latter is the really disappointing aspect of this whole saga as it has severely tarnished his achievements here.

[Renton 27784]

7 minutes ago, trooper said:

Reading between the lines. It sounds like Howe's tried to speak to him about joing the team this weekend & he's refused.. Th8s from the presser

Has Eddie asked Alex to be involved this weekend

 

 

Of course, I've said many times I want him to train and play and I've had those conversations with him but the details of these conversations need to remain private.

 

If you think @Alex is any sort of replacement for Isak, you're mistaken. He's a 50 year old odd civil servant who was all bested by the grey man in the 5 aside nearly 20 years ago ffs. 

[Holden McGroin 9903]

There must be something else to this saga. It’s not like we are shite. We’ve just won a cup and got in the CL.  No reason to completely down tools and seems out of character.
 

I feel like something isn’t being reported. Maybe it will come out when he leaves.

Edited August 15 by Holden McGroin