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I heard an interview with Adam Curtis about his film ‘Hypernormalisation’ and what it means. He goes into a bit about the likes of Facebook and how the tech evangelists from Silicon Valley who created the algorithms will argue they are efficient. Because they create communities of like minded people who only see views and opinions they like. Apart from the untruths around things like Brexit being perpetuated though, which is an obvious negative to me, Curtis also points out this is deeply conservative as it stifles new ways of thinking. He argues the left has fallen into this trap and that the echo chambers it creates means all mainstream political movements have become essentially conservative. And that was about 10 years ago and things have moved on since then. But not for the better. How we or politicians manoeuvre out of this now is difficult to imagine without some sort of revolutionary change in the way people think. Another point is that people instinctively know things are getting worse and living standards are falling for most but feel completely powerless. They feel similar about political leaders. And that mindset is conservative too. Because you resist the big changes needed through fear of losing everything. So become complicit in that decline by accepting it. And on that happy note….
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Yeah I've even started to hear this from my vehemently Labour voting parents. I mentioned how childcare is now up to £80 a day and my dad said that people shouldn't have kids if they can't afford them. I was genuinely raging. We're pretty lucky in that we both have jobs and both earn a decent amount. We shop modestly, we drive reasonable cars, we save money where we can and we aren't frivolous. However, we can't account for mortgages going up as much as they did, we can't account for utility bills exploding, we can't account for old cunts voting for Brexit because of "reasons" meaning among other things that food shops are vastly more expensive. I'm paying about £200 a month on gas and electric, paying about £1k a month on childcare, the same on the mortgage. Cutting back on avocados or Netflix isn't going to plug those financial gaps, Dad.
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Tough one when it's your missus saying that stuff. Sounds like she needs to spend some time in the Toontastic Re-education Camp. Get that woman a login!
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Almost had an argument with the missus when as a by-product of talking about the pip fiasco which obviously could affect us she in a roundabout way put immigration as a problem which should be looked at before the disabled, I mentioned the phillipson comments the other day about falling birthday rates and they just needed to reverse Brexit and get rich cunts to start to pay their taxes for a start and her reply was Brexit will never be reversed as they'd be kicked out straight away. I said the polls are overwhelmingly anti-brexit but she disagrees when it comes down to it, but the absolute zinger was me saying, in relation to the falling birth rate, that young people aren't having kids because of the state of the cost of living/shit deal they have etc and she reposted a lot of it was to do with being taken over in our country!!! I couldn't believe what my corbynista wife was saying? I got up to make the dinner as it was starting to get heated but I should've said 'I bet Corbyn wouldn't agree with you?' I put this 100% on Facebook and reading shit like the chronicle letters page. She'll argue disability rights with people on there and she'll be right but it's almost like the conquer and divide arguement in action with regards to immigration.
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Makes you think
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Did you vote Tory at any point up to, including and after the 1979 general election?
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not you, obviously
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That photo man. Nose like a joiner's elbow.
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Who gives a fuck
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We all know Keith from the SMB is thick as pigshit and boring as fuck to boot. Perhaps he has some emotional intelligence after hearing about the tragic death of Diego Jota? Nah, of course not, time for another boring as fuck driving anecdote from the brain donor.
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Can't see this being reported anywhere else?
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I think there were similar surveys when Sunak floated his ridiculous national service idea (remember that ffs?!).
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During the pandemic I saw a survey about whether it was a good thing that people could work from home and whether it should be encouraged. Those over 65 overwhelmingly opposed this notion. I took it that in general they don't want following generations to have better lives than they did in any way.
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Thought the bump was because Diego Jota died in a car crash
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This x1000. My mum, with her prinlvate pension she got part time as a clerk (would be minimum wage now), my dad's teacher pension still paid after his death, and the state pension, is on more money than most 30 year old graduates in full time work. No mortgage of course. Now undoubtedly I'll be a beneficiary of this, and my kids will be pn my death. But that is fucking wrong, life just becomes a lottery on how rich your parents are. For those from disadvantaged backgrounds, well, you are fucked my son. Social mobility really isn't a thing in this country any more. The only difference between Labour and the Tories is the former want it to be, whereas the latter don't. But increasingly it doesn't matter, the outcome is the same.
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Where's that Diaz story from? It sounds like a spoof.
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You could genuinely be writing that about my Dad and Step Mam. When Dad realised I've voted remain he told me I'd "made a clear mistake which was understandable as I wasn't alive in 1973 so have no understanding of what sovereignty is". I mean, how condescending can you get?! It's one of the only times in 50 years I've told him to fuck off. My Step-Mam .... forever texting me pro-Brexit propaganda which I just ignore. Every now and then I have a go and tell her to stop sending me bilious nonsense that I don't subscribe to and she relents ... for no more than a couple of weeks and then it starts again.
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Aye heard this just before. Absolutely terrible news.
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Generic small time football blather thread FOREVER
wykikitoon replied to Sonatine's topic in Newcastle Forum
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I think the answer to the question is Brexit, voting Tory, buying up property for rental income. And then to top it off, and I don't know if this is a majority or a vocal minority, but being absolute fucking cunts when it's suggested to them that young people face hardships that they never had to contend with. "Eat less avocado toast" and all the shite about snowflakes and being too soft, etc. These twats bought 4 bed houses for under £20k and retire on unbelievable pensions. My mam didn't work for the vast majority of my childhood and has a pension I might just about surpass having worked all of my adult life in jobs that pay multiples of what she would have been earning.
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The "old' have enabled conservative government's all my life. They vote for policies to enrich themselves at the expense of the young. And Brexit. It's not all old people of course, including exemptions for your good self I'm sure. But it is still a general truth. The older my mum has got, the more bigoted and judgmental she has become. Seems to me that this happens to a lot of older people as they age. I hope I end up more like you TP than her tbh. It scares me I might end up like that.
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I'm sensing a data purge might be coming with next week's maintenance.
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