Christmas Tree 3997 Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 If they don't get promoted this coming season it'll be interesting to see if he'll stay or if they can afford him. They got into trouble by deals like this for Lundberg (and maybe Dyer) so it's nice to see them learning their lesson. Yup. £50 grand a week and the fee.......£16 million Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acrossthepond 707 Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 From their website: 'The club actually wanted me.' Says it all. Goodbye Kevin, you will be missed, not least by those who claimed this was 'good business.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 6867 Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 From their website: 'The club actually wanted me.' Says it all. Goodbye Kevin, you will be missed, not least by those who claimed this was 'good business.' We wanted him as well, but not for 5 years. Would you have given him 5 years on £50K a week ?? just askin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19828 Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 From their website: 'The club actually wanted me.' Says it all. Goodbye Kevin, you will be missed, not least by those who claimed this was 'good business.' We wanted him as well, but not for 5 years. Would you have given him 5 years on £50K a week ?? just askin i would have aye. he earned a deal to take him to the end of his days with us by arguably being one of our best players of the past two seasons, leading the team and playing a massive part in fostering the team spirit that has got us out of a massive hole. he's in his prime now. 29/30/31 are generally the best years for good pros. more evidence sadly that ashley isn't prepared to splash the going rate on wages, even when it comes to his senior and most important players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 12767 Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 I'd have had him for 5 years, aye. That doesn't mean I'd start him for five years though; his presence in the dressing room and possible transition into coaching would have been a rare moment of long-term planning with the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sniffer 0 Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 Let's hope all of the foreigners that pardew is after are prepared to roll their sleeves up like Nolan when we are hanging around the bottom half. Nothing like wrecking the team spirit that we've been hearing about for the last couple of seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 6867 Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 From their website: 'The club actually wanted me.' Says it all. Goodbye Kevin, you will be missed, not least by those who claimed this was 'good business.' We wanted him as well, but not for 5 years. Would you have given him 5 years on £50K a week ?? just askin i would have aye. he earned a deal to take him to the end of his days with us by arguably being one of our best players of the past two seasons, leading the team and playing a massive part in fostering the team spirit that has got us out of a massive hole. he's in his prime now. 29/30/31 are generally the best years for good pros. more evidence sadly that ashley isn't prepared to splash the going rate on wages, even when it comes to his senior and most important players. Frist bold bit, sentiment has no place to play in professional sport sadly. It's not like in three years he'll be a pauper and have to buy and run a pub to survive. Second bold bit, I always thought it was 25-30 myself, but OK each to their own. Slow already, comming off ankle surgery and £50K a week for 5 years, I wouldn't. For 3 yes, not 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 12767 Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 The obsession with wage packets is a curious new obsession with NUFC fans like. 50k is pennies for your influential captain, top goalscorer, big dressing room presence and Mackem Destroyer (co-owned with Shola), especially for the continuation of those things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6307 Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 From their website: 'The club actually wanted me.' Says it all. Goodbye Kevin, you will be missed, not least by those who claimed this was 'good business.' We wanted him as well, but not for 5 years. Would you have given him 5 years on £50K a week ?? just askin Same lot gave Ameobi a 3 year contract when he was 27. I rate Nolan a lot more than I do Shola. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 Hope some of you never become bosses. An employee performs well for 2 years and instead of a % of a one years wages as a reward, you'd give him 5 years of salary? He wont be playing much in that time too remember. 5 years of salary for 2 years of good performance, with the 2 years already paid for handsomely seems just a little bit generous. Not even the top bankers get that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 The be all and end all was that this club wanted me and the owners put faith in me and have given me a security of contract. He wanted to secure his future more than play for us. Fair enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 13866 Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 To be honest he was offered a 1 year extension with incentives taking it to £50k a week - he's chased the money here I reckon. I reckon Ashley will still be feeling sore over Smith withdrawing £60k for fuck all - the last ridiculous wages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 3981 Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 Fuck knows where we'll all be in 5 years time but I'd be astonished if Nolan is still getting a game for West Ham (or anyone else for that matter) - that's why I can understand the policy while still feeling they've underestimated the team spirit factors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 Fuck knows where we'll all be in 5 years time but I'd be astonished if Nolan is still getting a game for West Ham (or anyone else for that matter) - that's why I can understand the policy while still feeling they've underestimated the team spirit factors. Agree on both counts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 34533 Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 Hope some of you never become bosses. An employee performs well for 2 years and instead of a % of a one years wages as a reward, you'd give him 5 years of salary? He wont be playing much in that time too remember. 5 years of salary for 2 years of good performance, with the 2 years already paid for handsomely seems just a little bit generous. Not even the top bankers get that. Canny daft comparison tbh. Fixed term contracts are not the norm in normal business, but if they were I don't think you'd see too many companies happy to let their top performers go to a smaller competitor for the sake of one year on a contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin S. Assilleekunt 1 Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 The fact remains he was on a perfectly good contract with 2 years left, which seemed an appropriate length of contract given his age. We didn't have to sell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 6867 Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 From their website: 'The club actually wanted me.' Says it all. Goodbye Kevin, you will be missed, not least by those who claimed this was 'good business.' We wanted him as well, but not for 5 years. Would you have given him 5 years on £50K a week ?? just askin Same lot gave Ameobi a 3 year contract when he was 27. I rate Nolan a lot more than I do Shola. See the pattern ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoneColdStephenIreland 74 Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 Williamson got a 5 year contract and isnt he late twenties??? It's not as though if we did offer him a 5 year contract he'd be here for 5 years, if he wasn't getting in the team then he would have been sold and we would have built a better team around him and be in a better position than we are now to sell him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 Hope some of you never become bosses. An employee performs well for 2 years and instead of a % of a one years wages as a reward, you'd give him 5 years of salary? He wont be playing much in that time too remember. 5 years of salary for 2 years of good performance, with the 2 years already paid for handsomely seems just a little bit generous. Not even the top bankers get that. Canny daft comparison tbh. Fixed term contracts are not the norm in normal business, but if they were I don't think you'd see too many companies happy to let their top performers go to a smaller competitor for the sake of one year on a contract. If its a daft comparison, why do you extend it to argue the point then? If it doesnt work it doesnt support the bit in bold, as its just daft Of course its an imperfect comparison but he was paid to give 100% effort and play to his maximum potential. That was the deal he signed, to be an attacking midfielder in the first team for NUFC. He scored 30 goals by giving that 100% and his reward for doing what he signed up to was the wage he signed up to. The idea of him being 'rewarded' for his 'peformance' is sentimental and unrealistic. Its his future performance which should determine his future pay. Its not me claiming that the future 5 year contract that he wanted should have been given to him as a reward for the last 2 seasons either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 34533 Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 I was trying to play within the rules of your fantasy world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 (edited) Williamson got a 5 year contract and isnt he late twenties??? It's not as though if we did offer him a 5 year contract he'd be here for 5 years, if he wasn't getting in the team then he would have been sold and we would have built a better team around him and be in a better position than we are now to sell him I reckon Williamson is on about £10k a week tbh. Also, Alan Smith would tend to disprove your second point. Edited June 16, 2011 by alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 26899 Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 What's the obsession with 5 year contracts? It means fuck all, he was contracted to us for another two years. Should've just kept him to see how our new recruits turned out and looked to sell him if everything was rosy with our new lads next winter or summer and he wasn't getting a game. Or heaven forbid, injuries, shit form and a lack of goals from the new kids would've meant him actually playing a big role next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin S. Assilleekunt 1 Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 I was trying to play within the rules of your fantasy world. He's been reading to much Sartre and eating baguettes, poor lad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin S. Assilleekunt 1 Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 (edited) Williamson got a 5 year contract and isnt he late twenties??? It's not as though if we did offer him a 5 year contract he'd be here for 5 years, if he wasn't getting in the team then he would have been sold and we would have built a better team around him and be in a better position than we are now to sell him I reckon Williamson is on about £10k a week tbh. Also, Alan Smith would tend to disprove your second point. There's be plenty of other clubs who would want to buy Nolan into his 30s though, especially in the Championship. Smith, on the other hand... less desirable than the Elephant man. Edited June 16, 2011 by Kevin S. Assilleekunt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 The obsession with wage packets is a curious new obsession with NUFC fans like. 50k is pennies for your influential captain, top goalscorer, big dressing room presence and Mackem Destroyer (co-owned with Shola), especially for the continuation of those things. what it is, is the "anything but Fred" obsession, anything "Fred" did, lets do the opposite, despite the european qualifications and growth of the club. I know posters like CT is just a WUM, but others like Deano, jaysouthernmag, toonpack and one or two others are genuine deluded fuckwits to be honest. As for these new signings, a lot is being said about Nolan, but replacing such a good leader and influence is highly unlikely to be achieved with players who have hardly played in the premiership, if at all, who look good on youtube for 5 minutes. It seems that most people are saying this, but the bairns appear to continue to think they know best and that youtube is a highly successful talent spotting tool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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