rogerbarton 24 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 If we were to draw the mackems in one of the cups this season, I reckon we'd have our best chance of beating them since Hughton. A squad with team spirit who actually work for each other being the key. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 26877 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 I remember reading one of their programmes about '89 at Roker Park and one of their programme features was an 'ask a fan' piece. They obviously had the same questions each week for a die hard 'rokerman' to answer, (no black cats or mackem patter from them then), and of course one of the few taxing questions was 'how do you celebrate beating Newcastle?' At the time I thought it was odd as they'd never beaten us for ten year plus it was a bit of an odd thing to put in a football programme. Anyway, this particular Roker fan answered that he'd go into Newcastle and buy a video of it as there'd be none left in Sunderland. Truly riveting stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essembeeofsunderland 811 Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 With Catts For England back in the makem squad for the Tottenham game they would have been thinking a Chelsea v Liverpool draw would have been their preferred result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 “Is it correct leadership from the top?” queried Sunderland’s seventh manager in five years, who takes his team to Tottenham Hotspur on Sunday. “Has correct direction been given? Most managers have come here on the back foot. They’re not coming in here smiling, on top of it, really positive because they have nearly always been trying to put out the bush fires, to stop things getting worse all the time. I can see that.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 12767 Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Is that a real quote? I can't tell if he's trying to give the players a kick up the arse to try and prove him wrong or if the severity of the situation has dawned on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 13861 Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 I wonder who the impact manager will be? I can't see Moyes lasting the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leon 13 Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 “Is it correct leadership from the top?” queried Sunderland’s seventh manager in five years, who takes his team to Tottenham Hotspur on Sunday. “Has correct direction been given? Most managers have come here on the back foot. They’re not coming in here smiling, on top of it, really positive because they have nearly always been trying to put out the bush fires, to stop things getting worse all the time. I can see that.” That sounds like a guy already looking at making sure his exit plan is in place. He can reuse the statements Advocaat used last October when he left and cited the lack of spending and player quality as the driving force behind. "I did not think I was the right person and manager to work like that any longer. So, I quit and I did not want a penny from the club. I have never taken money from a club after resigning or quitting. Sunderland as a club, with all the fans, was fantastic. What I have experienced with the fans is something I will never forget. But I saw other things at the club that were not right. That’s why I informed the owner in the midweek before my last match that there was no way I was going to stay as manager. When you are working seven days a week, putting so much energy into the team, you want something positive in return. That just didn’t happen.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 13861 Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Is that a real quote? I can't tell if he's trying to give the players a kick up the arse to try and prove him wrong or if the severity of the situation has dawned on him. Can you give players a kick up the arse these days? Half of them don't give a fuck, especially for teams like Sunderland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 12767 Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Can you give players a kick up the arse these days? Half of them don't give a fuck, especially for teams like Sunderland. I think you can, like. As bad as some of them are, I bet there's part of them that still wants to maintain some kind of professional pride in themselves. For the other ones, maybe not but damaging their ego might be a good place to start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 13861 Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 I think it can work short term but generally I think players get sick of it after a while and just stop playing altogether, waiting for a new manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 12767 Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 I think it can work short term but generally I think players get sick of it after a while and just stop playing altogether, waiting for a new manager. Aye, if they don't respect their coach, they're not going to listen but not sure that's a new phenomenon really. I certainly wouldn't listen to David Moyes, mind and I'm shite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 13861 Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 I just think for the kick up the arse to work it has to be under specific circumstances - last few games of the season of whatever. If Moyes told half these players he was going to shift them for being lazy they'd be over the moon to leave Sunderland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 12767 Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 I just think for the kick up the arse to work it has to be under specific circumstances - last few games of the season of whatever. If Moyes told half these players he was going to shift them for being lazy they'd be over the moon to leave Sunderland. fair point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 5925 Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 That whole Magedia shite is going to end up with that lad losing his job at the Echo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essembeeofsunderland 811 Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 He didn't wake up one morning to find himself under contract as the makem manager.He won nowt at Everton and looked clueless at Man Utd and Sociedad.He's got 1 point out 12 and blaming everyone but himself.When he leaves within 18 months he'll find it very difficult to get another Premier League manager's job,and it will be down to him being a total failure as a manager.His pals in the press ( Fat ginger drink driving Brazil,Fat Sam,McLeish) are going to find it hard to defend his record.The makems will soon be looking for another messiah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 They discovered some pretty strong worded anti-mackem tweets i believe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 How can he be sacked for that though? It's not like the echo won't have known about his affiliations before taking him on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 Calling your demographic scummy cunts probably is a stackable offence. Love how outraged they are, hope the echo digs it's heels in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12460 Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 The mackem boycotts are pretty intense mind, the great Sugar Puffs boycott of '96 has been going for 20 years now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 (edited) Having read the last few pages of the thread on rtg, all I can say is that some of the carry on about it on there is beyond shameful. What an absolute bunch of whining children they are. Edited September 18, 2016 by Rayvin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 Calling your demographic scummy cunts probably is a stackable offence. Love how outraged they are, hope the echo digs it's heels in While he was in the job? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 If everyone was held to that standard, none of us would have jobs... The mackems need to stfu on this one. And in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4223 Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 If everyone was held to that standard, none of us would have jobs... The mackems need to stfu on this one. And in general. We ARE talking about RTG posters here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leon 13 Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 (edited) So they've protested / got themselves more worked up about a Sunderland Echo reporters football allegiance than when they discovered their CEO had lied about what the club knew regarding Johnson and his sex abuse case. Edited September 18, 2016 by MiddleAgeCool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trophyshy 6434 Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 Classy club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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