Anorthernsoul 1221 Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 21-22k for you, three kids and a wife. Taking into account your double portion sizes and extra pounds you're happy feeding and housing 6 people on less than the average wage for one person? Grim as. Don't forget the grapes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitman 2188 Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 Tax credits are inefficient and in certain circumstances a disincentive to work. We have them here in NZ. However they're there for a reason and if they're not replaced by income then already hard up people will suffer disproportionately. I doubt the income will be replaced by companies simply paying people more so a slash and burn approach on its own will just penalise the poor. I don't know what the tories are doing and I can't be arsed to look it up bit I doubt very much the private sector will do anything to replace the lost money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 27067 Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 I'm not inferring anything. I just copied and pasted the table from HMRC. As for the principal of making employers to pay a higher wage and stop the welfare subsidising low wages, I think it's sensible. As to what a family income should be before welfare kicks in, that's open to debate. My situation is 3 kids at home and between me and the wife we take home approx 21 - 22 thousand. We pay a mortgage, eat etc and get by. Child benefit and tax credits help, but we'd still get by without them. There's probably 1000 more deserving causes where that money would do more good such as poor pensioners or old people who need care at home. I don't know all your circumstances but you did say you were mortgage free so maybe you have other expenses and it's tougher for you. I wouldn't for one minute call you a scrounger as this is just money that Government chose to give you. It's obviously going to effect some more than others. It was just a well meaning idea that just got way out of hand. You copied and pasted something which isn't what a couple with two kids would get, I filled out their form for just over thirty grand and they currently pay 17 pound a week. I'll screen shot it later for you when I get in. You and your lass manage fine with 21k and three kids? What happened to your tenants/landlord income? Sell up? Invest in something else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 9027 Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 He pays into his ISA with the doubloons he finds in Farmer Giles' fields. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 19865 Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 Well there is more unclaimed benefits than benefits obtained by fraud. (Obviously not including tax avoiding fraud which dwarfs the benefit fraud but is obviously a lower priority for some reason?) It was the poor that created the financial crisis after all. It's only fair they're punished. We don't want to be seen as anti business by going after tax dodging corporates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 ONS just released a load of stats on the living wage. 6 million UK jobs don't pay the living wage. % of jobs that pay less 28% Northumberland 27% South Tyneside 26% Durham 24% Sunderland 23% Newcastle 20% Gateshead 20% North Tyneside The south east of England, London and Scotland had the lowest proportion of jobs paid below the Living Wage – all at 19% http://visual.ons.gov.uk/how-many-jobs-are-paid-less-than-the-living-wage-in-your-area/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitman 2188 Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 It was the poor that created the financial crisis after all. It's only fair they're punished. We don't want to be seen as anti business by going after tax dodging corporates They don't need to tax dodge any more, the corporation tax rate is so low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26544 Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 Facebook paid £4,237 corporation tax in the UK last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 Facebook paid £4,237 corporation tax in the UK last year. It means Facebook's UK corporation tax bill was less than the tax the average UK employee paid on their salary. The average UK salary is £26,500 on which employees pay a total of £5,392.80 in income tax and national insurance contributions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 3986 Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 The most productive workers in the world are the Germans. They're well trained, well paid, work standard hours and have excellent benefits. Should we aspire as a country to be like them? Well according to our friends, no - we should aspire to be low paid in dangerous environments, with no rights and work ludicrous hours under a communist regime. The party for workers my arse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 9027 Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 It means Facebook's UK corporation tax bill was less than the tax the average UK employee paid on their salary. The average UK salary is £26,500 on which employees pay a total of £5,392.80 in income tax and national insurance contributions. So Facebook paid less tax than most of their employees? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 So Facebook paid less tax than most of their employees? With the £35m bonus pot they paid out, quite a lot less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 14655 Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 As a self employed sub contractor in my last tax year I think I paid around 8k in corporation tax on a turnover of about 36k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 27067 Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 As a self employed sub contractor in my last tax year I think I paid around 8k in corporation tax on a turnover of about 36k Good lad, someone's gotta pay for my 50" plasma TV and benidorm hollibobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 27067 Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 By the way, CT doing really well on his budget, lovely house, new metal detectors, pub nights aplenty, bong parties, Mr Eats from the chronicle tribute act ect. Fair play, Angela Merkel would love his prudence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26544 Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 If the entire taxi industry declared and paid tax on their actual income then we could wipe out the defecit instantly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 I've deleted my facebook account in a fit of pique. Not my Twitter one though, I actually use my account with those tax dodging bastards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 If the entire taxi industry declared and paid tax on their actual income then we could wipe out the defecit instantly. I was thinking about that while I had a piss earlier. Wondered if Uber are the only digital revolution company to pay more tax than the outdated model they're replacing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anorthernsoul 1221 Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 I didn't realize a Taxi drivers pay was that shit to be fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 I didn't realize a Taxi drivers pay was that shit to be fair. If CT's talking on here it's a bountiful paradise where there aren't enough cars to pick up all the high paying fares that keep him in weekends off, season tickets and erdinger. If he's doing his books he has to start work before he clocks off just to break even. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 Depends whether you're taking fares or filming birds iirc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anorthernsoul 1221 Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/the-west-rightly-condemns-isis-vandalism-of-ancient-sites-but-not-when-the-saudis-do-it-a6689931.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 3997 Posted October 12, 2015 Author Share Posted October 12, 2015 All kicking off in the Labour Party PLP tonight. Honeymoons over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 Actually kind of agree with CT on this one - it's fair enough that Corbyn has these positive views on how to bring about a better society, but he needs to take a fucking grip of that party and give it a shake. He needs to be decisive and firm. Granted NuLabour need to stop arsing around, but a display of strength is needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitman 2188 Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 Facebook paid £4,237 corporation tax in the UK last year. You can add the likes of google and starbucks etc to that list. However those are long running structures and will become much more difficult if measures proposed by the OECD are implemented. There will then be less of an incentive for UK companies to dodge tax especially with a low tax rate....although the worst are american companies and the IRS seems to tolerate this for some reason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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