Transfers, 2023-24 season

[Polarboy 2124]

I see Leeds are one of the teams who are interested in Darlow along with Bournemouth. Seen an article saying it might be worth sweetening a deal for Adams off Leeds with Darlow as part of the bid. Adams isn't the most exciting signing, but he's a very competent defensive mid who's far too good for the championship. 

Edited July 4, 2023 by Polarboy

[Dr Gloom 20128]

some twitter ITK bellend reckons we're getting harvey barnes for £25m 

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13 minutes ago, Polarboy said:

I see Leeds are one of the teams who are interested in Darlow along with Bournemouth. Seen an article saying it might be worth sweetening a deal for Adams off Leeds with Darlow as part of the bid. Adams isn't the most exciting signing, but he's a very competent defensive mid who's far too good for the championship. 

I've seen loads about Meslier and how teams like Man Utd are after him.  He's fucking GASH

[Polarboy 2124]

 

3 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said:

some twitter ITK bellend reckons we're getting harvey barnes for £25m 

 

I'd take him all day long for 25m, but I can't see it. I'd be shocked if he didn't go for north of 30m. There are other more reputable sources such as the Mail who say we're back in for him, but again that price seems low. 

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10 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said:

some twitter ITK bellend reckons we're getting harvey barnes for £25m 

So we definitely aren’t getting Harvey Barnes then.

[Howay 12496]

2 hours ago, Diego21 said:

I agree.

In fact, I think pretty much all of us would have accepted that Almiron had been sold last summer for an appropriate amount because the guy hadn't really progressed or exploded in all his years here.

But of course, with the level shown this season for several months...

My only question is whether Miggy will be able to maintain that level throughout the season. Because that is the level that sets him apart and makes him important in a Champions League team like ours.

I’d sell Almiron in a heartbeat, he’s so poor technically on the ball and his finishing is fucking abhorrent. He scored 9 goals up to xmas and then 2 in the 18 games after that, his poor finishing made it far harder to close out the season. He’s fine as a rotation option but he’s the main position we need to improve this summer imo, the moment teams started showing respect and sitting deeper he was completely ineffective. 

[Howay 12496]

34 minutes ago, Polarboy said:

I see Leeds are one of the teams who are interested in Darlow along with Bournemouth. Seen an article saying it might be worth sweetening a deal for Adams off Leeds with Darlow as part of the bid. Adams isn't the most exciting signing, but he's a very competent defensive mid who's far too good for the championship. 

I don’t see the point in bringing a painfully average bottom half PL player in, especially since he’s on a decent wage and we’d have to pay a fee. We need to be clearing out the ones we have of that level not bringing more in. 

Edited July 4, 2023 by Howay

[Polarboy 2124]

18 minutes ago, Howay said:

I don’t see the point in bringing a painfully average bottom half PL player in, especially since he’s on a decent wage and we’d have to pay a fee. We need to be clearing out the ones we have of that level not bringing more in. 

 

He was their best player before he got injured toward the end of the season. When your defensive mid is your best player, that says something about the level he's at compared to the team he's playing for. Palhinha at Fulham is probably the only other player at his level or a bit higher playing as a six outside of the "top six". Although I suppose Onana at Everton deserves a shout as well. So no, I don't subscribe to the notion that just because he plays for Leeds he's found his level. He's still quite young at 24 for a start, and was playing champions league football with Leipzig before he joined Leeds. 

[Dr Gloom 20128]

3 minutes ago, Polarboy said:

 

 Onana at Everton deserves a shout as well

 

[Holden McGroin 5047]

1 hour ago, Polarboy said:

 

He was their best player before he got injured toward the end of the season. When your defensive mid is your best player, that says something about the level he's at compared to the team he's playing for. Palhinha at Fulham is probably the only other player at his level or a bit higher playing as a six outside of the "top six". Although I suppose Onana at Everton deserves a shout as well. So no, I don't subscribe to the notion that just because he plays for Leeds he's found his level. He's still quite young at 24 for a start, and was playing champions league football with Leipzig before he joined Leeds. 

 

Isn't Bruno our best player? 😜

 

I'd take Adams tbh. Would be cheap and then thats the midfield sorted for the season.

 

Desperately need a left back and upgrades on the wings.

Edited July 4, 2023 by Holden McGroin

[LongTimeAdmirer 946]

https://twitter.com/Magpie24_7/status/1676245346031222786

 

"Newcastle have recently enquired about Conor Gallagher, Trevoh Chalobah and Marc Cucurella of Chelsea"

 

Seeing this story getting posted a lot, hope we give all 3 a miss

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I definitely think this is the season where Rodrigo Vilca steps up.

[gurru991 22]

3 hours ago, Dr Gloom said:

some twitter ITK bellend reckons we're getting harvey barnes for £25m 

English with two years left on his contract & scored 13 premier goals last season !!

I think he will be more than £25m !!

[Howay 12496]

2 hours ago, Polarboy said:

 

He was their best player before he got injured toward the end of the season. When your defensive mid is your best player, that says something about the level he's at compared to the team he's playing for. Palhinha at Fulham is probably the only other player at his level or a bit higher playing as a six outside of the "top six". Although I suppose Onana at Everton deserves a shout as well. So no, I don't subscribe to the notion that just because he plays for Leeds he's found his level. He's still quite young at 24 for a start, and was playing champions league football with Leipzig before he joined Leeds. 

I didn’t say he found his level at Leeds, I just see him as a bottom half-mid table average CM. Can’t say I’m impressed he was the best player for a very poor Leeds side Todd Cantwell was for Norwich not long ago, it’s also very debatable to say he was Leeds best since Harrison directly contributed in 25% of their PL goals, we’re in the CL and getting average midfield runners like him doesn’t improve us. I also don’t get where people are getting that he’d be cheap he cost them £20m last summer and is one year into a 5 year deal, that money would be far better spend elsewhere. 

Edited July 4, 2023 by Howay

[Polarboy 2124]

33 minutes ago, Howay said:

I didn’t say he found his level at Leeds, I just see him as a bottom half-mid table average CM. Can’t say I’m impressed he was the best player for a very poor Leeds side Todd Cantwell was for Norwich not long ago, it’s also very debatable to say he was Leeds best since Harrison directly contributed in 25% of their PL goals, we’re in the CL and getting average midfield runners like him doesn’t improve us. I also don’t get where people are getting that he’d be cheap he cost them £20m last summer and is one year into a 5 year deal, that money would be far better spend elsewhere. 

 

OK, fair enough you were talking about bottom half of the PL and Leeds obviously got relegated, but I still think he's better than bottom half of the PL. In terms of value for money for good defensive mids I don't see that many better options, unless you could unearth a gem outside the PL. And I also want us to spend big on RW, LB etc, but again I think Adams would be the value for money option. As for not needing him I saw a quite convincing tactical analysis of the team last season, he had graphs, clips and everything 😉👍 , and he was basically saying that not having a specialist six who can just sit, and having hybrid players like Bruno back there makes us more flexible going forward but leaves us vulnerable on the counter. I think it was pretty obvious to everyone on here that we got found out a little bit in the second half of the season, and found it tough to keep those clean sheets we were getting for fun previously. All the top teams have at least one player who can play that role in front of the defence, and it's not as simple as being a runner and an athlete. We don't have that type so getting one will definitely improve the squad. 

[Polarboy 2124]

I see we've been linked with that attacking mid/winger Jesper Lindstrom lad who plays for Eintracht Frankfurt. There's German reports that he wants to leave the club to play champions league football. The only other teams seriously linked with him are Liverpool and Chelsea. Liverpool are very unlikely to go after him now they have Szoboszlai obviously. From what little I've seen of him he looks like a bit of an improvement on the likes of Almiron and Murphy, but that's not all that inspiring. It could easily just be his agent trying to drum up interest. I also read, can't remember where, that Chiesa is very unlikely given what his wage demands will be, and that all the stories in the Italian press have been driven by his agent. I'm pretty sure it was in one of the mainstream publications and not an ITK. 

[Polarboy 2124]

 

Can't see us paying 40m for him if that's what Palace will insist on. He is quite similar to Schar in that he's very comfortable on the ball with accurate long passing, and he's four years younger of course, so he makes sense as a younger alternative/competition for Schar. Ed Aarons writes for the Guardian for those who don't know. It seems twitter has changed something whereby you can't embed tweets anymore. 

[Kid Dynamite 6077]

https://twitter.com/GraemeBailey/status/1676306353420136470?s=20

 

Snap their hand off. Asking price is double whatever Harvey Barnes is going for 

[Howmanheyman 27481]

9 minutes ago, Kid Dynamite said:

https://twitter.com/GraemeBailey/status/1676306353420136470?s=20

 

Snap their hand off. Asking price is double whatever Harvey Barnes is going for 

 

Only thing is he's full of shit normally. 

[Isegrim 8931]

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1 hour ago, Polarboy said:

 

Can't see us paying 40m for him if that's what Palace will insist on. He is quite similar to Schar in that he's very comfortable on the ball with accurate long passing, and he's four years younger of course, so he makes sense as a younger alternative/competition for Schar. Ed Aarons writes for the Guardian for those who don't know. It seems twitter has changed something whereby you can't embed tweets anymore. 

The wording- “Newcastle and another top six club…”

 

Which implies, correctly, that we are a top six club. 
 

Which means, someone has dropped out of the “top six” clubs.…

 

 

 

[Polarboy 2124]

Chalobah off Chelsea is an interesting link for competition for Schar, if there's anything in it. 23, 6'4, quick, athletic, good on the ball, and can play right back as well so would be the cover we need for Trippier, given the Livramento bid has gone quiet. The big snag is that Chelsea aren't likely to do us any favours, and his contract isn't up until 2028, so there'll be no discounts on the price. But supposedly he's been told he can leave, and is aware that he won't get many minutes in the upcoming season. 

 

Guler, the Turkish 18 year old wonderkid attacking mid, is off to Madrid. Not sure how serious our interest ever was, or indeed if we had any, but he'd surely have gotten more minutes at a team like us. 

Edited July 4, 2023 by Polarboy

[Billy Whitehurst 795]

18 minutes ago, Polarboy said:

Chalobah off Chelsea is an interesting link for competition for Schar, if there's anything in it. 23, 6'4, quick, athletic, good on the ball, and can play right back as well so would be the cover we need for Trippier, given the Livramento bid has gone quiet. The big snag is that Chelsea aren't likely to do us any favours, and his contract isn't up until 2028, so there'll be no discounts on the price. But supposedly he's been told he can leave, and is aware that he won't get many minutes in the upcoming season. 

 

Guler, the Turkish 18 year old wonderkid attacking mid, is off to Madrid. Not sure how serious our interest ever was, or indeed if we had any, but he'd surely have gotten more minutes at a team like us. 

I’ve seen Chalobah quite a few times, a total liability. Lascelles, who I don’t particularly rate, is a far better back-up.

[Polarboy 2124]

14 minutes ago, Billy Whitehurst said:

I’ve seen Chalobah quite a few times, a total liability. Lascelles, who I don’t particularly rate, is a far better back-up.

 

You're entitled to your opinion, but you're talking nonsense. Lascelles may as well be running in treacle as compared to Chalobah for a start, he can actually pass the ball, and is even comfortable enough on the ball to play in midfield, whereas Lascelles' first instinct is to hoof it as far as possible. And if you're basing your opinion on games from last season it was basically a write off for the entire Chelsea squad. I mean even if you just took it as Chalobah having just turned 24, with plenty of room to develop and learn, it's absurd to say that Lascelles is a better option as back up. 

[Billy Whitehurst 795]

3 minutes ago, Polarboy said:

 

You're entitled to your opinion, but you're talking nonsense. Lascelles may as well be running in treacle as compared to Chalobah for a start, he can actually pass the ball, and is even comfortable enough on the ball to play in midfield, whereas Lascelles' first instinct is to hoof it as far as possible. And if you're basing your opinion on games from last season it was basically a write off for the entire Chelsea squad. I mean even if you just took it as Chalobah having just turned 24, with plenty of room to develop and learn, it's absurd to say that Lascelles is a better option as back up. 

 

I live near Stamford Bridge and get tickets for a lot of Chelsea matches, the boy is a bit of a liability and the Chelsea fans will be delighted if he leaves. I can’t remember a game in which he has played where he has not had a howler. This was under both Tuchel and Potter over the past couple of seasons when he first started to get a game for them. Maybe watch him play a few matches before you start dismissing others opinions as ‘absurd’ and ‘nonsense’ otherwise you come across as a bit of a prat. I can’t remember ever seeing him play in midfield although, given he’d struggle to trap a bag of cement, I imagine it would be a bit like Mike Williamson playing there.