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Some of us grew up during the cold war and the troubles, some during the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and the terrorist attacks linked to them like 7/7. So who here grew up in a safe world?

He can have Wilson’s cot.

"THOMSEN! DAS IST THOMSEN!!"

He'll fit right in then

He's missed some games mind:

Thats a transfer rumour I can get behind!

This is more like it

Oh, brought us a cup? Shut up!

Defended, as in a barrister under the cab rank rule, or politically?

navigated PSR close to the point of disaster And big hot Mitch? Or the Man U rat? Or Mr Eales? Between the three of them what the fuck have they navigated towards? Sometimes you have to gamble and take risks

Other than when they had the audacity to try and break free from colonial era oil terms, I don't know what Iran have ever done to the UK. I'm fairly sure it's absolutely fuck all. The older I get, the more convinced I become that we're the true terror state in all this. Us and the Americans.

Iran are more dangerous to us, as in UK, EU, than Israel. Of course they are. They're allied with Russia, close to China and frankly our number2 enemy. Israel are our ally. That doesn't detract or excuse their atrocities, but it's true nonetheless. I agree.

Anyway, only time will tell how effective these strikes were and what Iran does. The only guarantee at the moment seems to be that the next generation is going to grow up in a less safe world than we did.

Given what has happened in the last few years, if you think Iran is more dangerous than Israel, nothing I'll say will convince you otherwise. Yes they've engaged in proxy wars and deserve criticism for it but the list of countries that have done that is long and hardly reason to believe they'd use nukes willy nilly.

“The Iranians, a great bunch of lads”.

This ancient tweet has resurfaced.

Burnley have just signed a new keeper, so I guess we will see whether us, Chelsea or Man Utd get Trafford soon

Well, you certainly can't go there and decide for yourself. As far as authoritarian hell holes go, there aren't many worse countries imo.

"Naive" again. Man I hear that a lot on here, always makes me smile a bit given how things tend to go. Alright man, I surrender to your superior knowledge of the inner workings of the Iranian state and its motivations.

For all it's faults Israel is a democracy. Why don't you trust them with nuclear weapons, they literally have them and don't use them. I think you're being a bit naive on the Iranian government here. They haven't destroyed Israel because they are impotent. I don't want that to change. They will never be allies of the west as they are fundamentally opposed to western liberal democracy as a concept.

Howay, Iran has been fighting proxy wars and supporting terrorist groups for decades. They are a brutal authoritarian state that oppress their own people mercilessly. They also supply Russia with drones to kill Ukrainian civilians. Israel has never used nuclear weapons when they probably could have. Iran might be responsible custodians of a nuclear arsenal but erm, no thanks, I'd rather not have that risk. Not to say what has happened is right. It's not, and as you say is counterproductive.

If you honestly think Iran would nuke Israel and completely ensure its total annihilation in the process, I can't help you. I find the level of fear we all have about Islamic countries to be utterly insane given that we are the ones who have persecuted them up and down through history, for the past 200 years. I'd trust Iran with a nuke far more than Israel.