Alex

I thought that documentary that was shown maybe 5 years ago about him and Paisley and their trips to the USA etc. was fascinating. Those two being able to let bygones be bygones did give me some hope the world isn't totally fucked just yet.

I struggle to see them not finishing bottom of the league, let alone staying up.

Don't know about anyone else but the recent adverts asking for a fiver for the East Africa Crisis Appeal immediately made me think of Trump's plan to spend an extra $54billion on the military.

Zidane's not even the best French no. 10 in my life time so he doesn't even warrant a mention in these comparisons

What a twat

I didn't mean to suggest I disagree with him on this particular point btw

I just remember the shop in Eldon Gardens and a mate who got the pissed ripped out of him for having a pair of the jogging pants. Almost as classy as the Bobbyann Boots shop on Percy Street.

80% off everything, all the time.

Influenced German hairstyles for decades

Well he did play second fiddle to Giorgio Chinaglia for a while I suppose.

I wouldn't really say Ruud Gullit was a 'flair' player but what a complete footballer he was. I take your point but I think it applies less to than you suggest to the 'world class' equation. Gerd Muller wasn't a flair player, Kevin Keegan wasn't, Paolo Rossi wasn't. Ian Rush wasn't. They were all forwards as well.

Me too

Of course he's right.

He's spent his whole career spouting shite he hasn't been able to back up. The thick fucking cunt. I'm surprised even that lot expends any energy on hating that waste of space.

Do you think Beckenbauer was a flair player? Or Maldini? Or John Charles?

Nice image

They could both score goals that the other couldn't. Ronaldo was at a different level to Shearer though if you're talking about both at their very best.

Shearer was world class at his peak like.

Maradona was pretty anonymous in the only two games against top sides at the '86 World Cup. A 1-1 draw against Italy and the final against West Germany. He still got the equaliser in the former and played a great ball for the winner in the latter though. I do think it's slightly inaccurate to say he carried that Argentina side. He scored fantastic goals against Belgium and England though. But that side won the final without him having much of a say in it. I assume you mean two world cup finals as well, since he 'only' won the one. And I would disagree he carried that side to the 1990 final. Argentina were a cynical side who limped through the group stage of what was essentially a shit tournament which England fans understandably tend to view through rose-tinted geps. They were dead lucky against Brazil then won their next two games on penalties (Maradona missed his against Yugoslavia). The final was fucking awful too and he did fuck all in that game as well. Cannigia had as much, if not more, of an influence on that side's progress in the tournament. The point about Zidane is similar too since he played in a brilliant team, albeit with him as its fulcrum. You could say the same about Pele. Discounting him is probably the funniest thing I'd read on here as well. That Santos side was the best in the world for a while and he had a much greater influence at world level at a far younger age than Maradona. Even when his legs had gone 12 years after winning the World Cup and being the best player (aged FUCKING 17), he was still the best player in the best side ever. FWIW I'd put Maradona and Pele at a level above anyone else in the 20th century. With the likes of Best, Cruyff and Ronaldo in the chasing pack.

Ronaldo's finishing was fucking brilliant.

That's a relief, I thought you were going to post that photo from Euro '88

Yeah, I thought I'd play it deadpan Btw, this is what it must be like when Fish and KCG get together.

Allowing for hyperbole I tend to agree in terms of how good they were for us.