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I've started a new religion. I was sat on the toilet having a shit, no one else was in the house. Suddenly God appeared unto me. He told me that it is possible for everyone to have a prosperous and eternal after-life if they suck my penis. You have to suck it until the holy juice of wisdom squirts out. So far, I have no followers.

 

Would have worked for Joseph Smith. Missed opportunity IYAM.

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1. He has the right to his faith, what's so wrong about that,

 

2. if someone was dissing race or homosexuality like you (and others) disparage religion, there'd be fucking hell on.

 

3. Monumental double standards

 

1. Yes, he does have the right to his faith, a right I'm sure NJS fully supports. NJS also has the right to free inquiry, and the right to free expression. He is exercising that right by criticising religion and faith, what's so wrong about that?

 

2. First of all, there is 'hell on': all NJS has done is exercise his right to criticise religion and a slurry of insults have been hurled his way. Second of all, and I don't know why I'm bothering with this as it is something which has been gone over hundreds of times, you're conflating two separate issues. Most people don't choose to be gay. Nobody chooses their ethnicity, other than Michael Jackson (hee-heee motherfucker!). People do choose to follow faith-based ideologies which claim to have moral supremacy and denounce--and seek out to punish, and sometimes wipe out--non-believers and 'sinners'. If you don't recognise the difference here, you don't know anything.

 

It's ironic that you brought this up, because as far as I am aware, NJS would not criticise someone for their sexuality, or their race, because he is a rational human being. Religion on the other hand, is the root of many prejudices of that nature: towards the Jews, towards homosexuals, ad nauseum.

 

3. So it is not in fact a show of double standards on the part of NJS. If he criticised one religion but not another, that would be a double standard. Since you appear to hold faith in such high regard, perhaps you would be interested in hearing about my faith. I am fully committed to the belief, due to a direct message from God to me, that the only way for man to enter the eternal kingdom of the after-life is by sucking my penis. As I possess this knowledge, I feel it is my duty to save as many people as I can from eternal damnation. I hereby extend an invitation to you to suck my penis, lest you suffer eternal darkness upon mortal ruin. That goes for the rest of the forum: suck my cock.

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People do choose to follow faith-based ideologies which claim to have moral supremacy and denounce--and seek out to punish, and sometimes wipe out--non-believers and 'sinners'. If you don't recognise the difference here, you don't know anything.

 

I also recognise that for people in too many regions and countries of the world it isn't really a choice which makes it even sadder.

 

I'd also say that priests/shamans/mystics/gurus of all religions since mankind could speak have got to the blowjob conclusion before you.

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Please don't confuse religion with faith.

 

And the idea that God selects some for death and others to live is ridiculous. But do try to take into account the man's upbringing.

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fuck me i should give up trying to point out something simple to some of the lads on here and it's been blown out of proportion, it really wasn't that hard to grasp, luke's managed to make two really piss poor attempts at it mind, this does n't encourage me that the brightest minds are in medicine.

(and further more it's even more hilarious i'm getting hassled about faith considering i went to two catholic schools, one of which had a seminary attached to the fecking thing, i'd be willing to bet i've "experienced" more religion than some of the people trying to lecture me on it)

 

I wasn't having a go at people with faith, i couldn't give a flying fuck what people believe in, my gran for instance is a "believer" gives her money away/goes to mass 4 times a week etc, but won't have a great grand child anywhere near her because it was born out of wedlock (go go religion!), if thats the kinda thing that keeps the women happy, whatever none of my business and doesn't effect me.

 

"On the morning of the game I prayed with my father and asked God to protect me - and he didn't let me down. For 78 minutes I was dead and even if I lived was expected to have suffered brain damage. Some one up there was watching over me.

-- loads of faith, almighty being, grand plan, everything for a reason etc etc, got that ok?

 

"It was pure chance that Dr Deaner was in the crowd that day," Muamba added. "I owe him everything."

HANG ON! So it was god's will that he collapsed and nearly died, but it was "pure chance", "roll of the dice" "dumb luck" that there was a doctor in the crowd

 

Do you get it now? one minute it's part of the plan, the next it's a lucky break, first faith/second just jammy. Not "thank god yer man was in the crowd there!" just "whew that was handy"

 

I understand exactly what your point is as outlined in my last post on the matter you utter utter retard, and I've presented the reasons why your post was stupid and crass.

 

Yet again you show that the same special cases who come out with OMG YOU ALWAYZ SAY YOU IZ DOKTA LOL boredom are the ones who bring it up entirely unnecessarily. Using my profession as a stick to supposedly beat me with says more about your feelings of inadequacy than anything else, you impotent flaccid embarrassment.

 

By the way, the fact you were touched up by priests doesn't given your drivel any more credence.

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Without getting into the whole 'miracle' debate, it's probably at least fair to say that the 'luck' angle has been marginally overstated. I mean if you're going to have a heart attack, if it's not in a hospital, the next best place is probably at work in the middle of 40,000 people. I mean statistically at least one of them is likely to be a doctor. They're not that rare surely?

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Without getting into the whole 'miracle' debate, it's probably at least fair to say that the 'luck' angle has been marginally overstated. I mean if you're going to have a heart attack, if it's not in a hospital, the next best place is probably at work in the middle of 40,000 people. I mean statistically at least one of them is likely to be a doctor. They're not that rare surely?

 

Both teams had doctors pitch side as well, as well as paramedics (who commenced CPR). I think the importance of the chance presence of the spurs supporting cardiologist has been potentially overstated.

 

Especially if one of the above docs was an anaesthetist. ;)

 

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They went straight to the cardiology centre and he operated on him. He said having the blood flowing round his body due to the exertion of a football match will have helped his chances of survival too, as opposed to having a parked car blocking the exit of the stadium.

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Both teams had doctors pitch side as well, as well as paramedics (who commenced CPR). I think the importance of the chance presence of the spurs supporting cardiologist has been potentially overstated.

 

Especially if one of the above docs was an anaesthetist. ;)

 

Was gonna say, I'm pretty sure Prem football has all manner of medical safeguards like the ones you mention.

 

Especially if one of the above docs was anatheist.

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In other news the odds on Wigan to beat Liverpool, Man Utd and then Arsenal were apparently 1088/1!! :o

 

No who had the Delorean last?

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Especially if one of the above docs was anatheist.

 

Very, very good. :D

 

KSA - White Hart Lane is pretty close to the London Chest Hospital so he'd have probably gone there anyway. I think the doc helped stabilise him once they arrived but I'm not sure he had an angioplasty, I'm certain he didn't have an operation. Tbph I'm not even sure what interventions he recieved other than good critical care and thereaputic cooling that he would have got in any other hospital, including my own which is a small district general as opposed to a specialty tertiary referral centre with a fancy dan name.

 

I'm not trying to do the guy a disservice, he obviously helped Muamba a lot but I'm not sure how much a difference him being at the match would have made - him running from the stands to assist is a good subplot of the story that people have picked up on for obvious reasons. Still, I suppose being treated by a consultant cardiologist on the scene then being taken to a specialist centre wouldn't have harmed his chances, and I wasn't there, I'm only hypothesising, I did say potentially.

 

 

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Technically speaking the doctor was committing a criminal offence the second he ran onto the pitch as this is illegal in all English professional football stadiums and punishable with a banning order. For all Muamba's talk of miracles, he was actually engaging with a known criminal while he was in the act of perpetrating his crime, so you'll excuse me if I say that it all leaves a bit of a sour taste. That's just a criminal lawyers view and I accept it might not be a popular one.

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The PFA supports oil seed rape

 

 

Football is ran by absolute idiots. Either that or they sit around a table and intentionally think about what is the worst possible decision they could make on a daily basis. That is why I wasn't surprised to see that convicted rapist Ched Evans was in the PFA's League 1 team of the year.

 

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Evans has 35 goals in 42 games for Sheffield United and clearly should be in the League 1 team of the year based on his footballing performances. However, maybe I'm old-fashioned but I don't think that anyone who has been sentenced to five years in prison for rape should receive an award.

 

Chief executive Gordon Taylor said that if the PFA had decided to withdraw Evans from the team, it would have caused a storm as it was fellow professionals who voted and it would be manipulating the vote. Footballers are not the brightest but they still understand that rape is bad. Well I think they do, I could list the 100s of footballers who have been accused but I would get in trouble. Alternatively you could join in on our facebook page and make your "accused XI".

 

Anyway, there is absolutely no way this would have caused the "storm" he was predicting. Like anyone really gives a shit about the League 1 team of the year. If it wasn't for this story I wouldn't have even known there was one. Someone called Rhoys Wiggins is in the team, is Rhoys really a name? He sounds like a mix between a gangster rapper and Mr Bean.

 

The PFA are happy to keep Evans in the team because it was a professional decision and not a moral one, showing they have the morals of a Nazi general. Evans is going to appeal his sentence and this is something they are also mindful of, as am I. If he appeals successfully, I will have to go and delete every comment where I have called him a rapist and I'm just too lazy to do that.

 

 

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I assumed it was going to be explained by a banal reason such as the announcements had already been distributed when he was found guilty. That attempt to justify the decision is frankly embarrasing.

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