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I still think having to have a license to have children would be effective. Unless you pass a certain criteria then you don't get a license, anyone dodging it gets an enforced termination or child relocation and sterilisation :icon_lol:

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Let it be said, lest we forget, poverty is NO EXCUSE.

 

I've whizzed through the posts today, so forgive me if I have some details mixed up.

 

Poverty in Britain is relatively comfortable on a world level. We all know someone, be they a family-member or a friend, who lives, or has lived below the poverty line; there are examples on this very website:

 

Manc-Mag, or Scotty as some of you know him, didn't have a pot to piss in when he was growing up. Raised by a Jamaican crackhead, he shunned the pipe and the moral decay, the descent into crime of those around him: that would have been an easy path to take, but no. Life was difficult, and between them Scotty and his father didn't have a penny to rub together--not that Scotty would want spend time rubbing a penny with such a scrofulous oaf. He displayed an academic flair and worked on it, eventually passing the BAR exams and soaring like a bald eagle to the top of his profession. He is now a respected barrister. Does this story sound familiar? No, because too many take the other path and end up like the rabble we see on our screens today.

 

NO EXCUSES

:icon_lol: Scotty isn't manc-mag, he's someone else... but your biography of him is spot on anyway

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I still think having to have a license to have children would be effective. Unless you pass a certain criteria then you don't get a license, anyone dodging it gets an enforced termination or child relocation and sterilisation :icon_lol:

I think it should also be applied retrospectively.

 

Line em up, gun em down. :lol:

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I've just watched that interview with Howe again on the Beeb. Judging by the comments--admittedly not an accurate barometer of public opinion, but they're all I have access to at the moment--a lot of people seem to support what he's saying. He compares the riots to the demonstrations in Syria. I know that there is a mindset amongst young people, like those at the tuition fee demos, who genuinely believe that, say, Iran is a more open and free society than England. They genuinely believe that we live in a totalitarian state, and a brutal police state to boot. And they believe that it is the state that is to blame for all the failures in their life.

 

What's clear though is that this whole thing is a fucking mess: it can't be adequately explained because there are so many different things at play; 'multiculturalism' only adds to that, with many different communities of immigrants involved and battling each other.

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Gemmil and Joey.....separated at birth :icon_lol:

 

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Joseph Barton

 

Water cannon, nice! Always makes good TV. Hope all u robbing little ferrets are out tonight, u will get dismantled

 

Some top brass fella from the Met was on the news last night saying how anyone who mentions a water cannon or rubber bullets is an idiot who doesn't know what they're talking about. They're tools used on large stationary crowds in order to create space, not small highly mobile groups.......

 

Ministers have drawn up plans to allow police to deploy water cannon at 24 hours' notice, David Cameron has announced.

 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/aug/10/d...on-police-riots

 

Pandering arseholes.

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And in case you Labour lot missed it Americas credit rating is being down graded. So if you cant see you were wrong on spending there's no debate to have. I'd get more sense out of a mop.

 

No debate? :icon_lol:

 

It was a symbolic downgrading from a discredited rating agency. If not then how come the interest rates the US pays on it's debt fell immediately after S&P's latest joke?

 

The real problem is we (the UK and US) are facing a protracted period of stagnation or a double dip recession. Without growth, we can't reduce the deficit. Something you tory mopheads can't get your heads around it seems.

 

There's no debate because you cant see the mess the US has gotten itself into, therefore you wont acknowledge the spending cuts were needed. You're wrong and you clearly cant see it. "unsustainable public sector", "deficit" - the clues couldn't slap you in the face any harder.

 

Why do people think public sector spending will increase growth? Are you saying a double dip could be avoided by sustaining an unsustainable public sector? ~madness personified. Growth through tax breaks to SME make much more sense than hiring 10 people to do 1 persons job.

 

 

fyi, S&P downgraded the US because they increased their self imposed credit limit. Which makes sense. More credit = more risk. Justify it all you want, but 16 trillion beggars belief.

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And in case you Labour lot missed it Americas credit rating is being down graded. So if you cant see you were wrong on spending there's no debate to have. I'd get more sense out of a mop.

 

No debate? :icon_lol:

 

It was a symbolic downgrading from a discredited rating agency. If not then how come the interest rates the US pays on it's debt fell immediately after S&P's latest joke?

 

The real problem is we (the UK and US) are facing a protracted period of stagnation or a double dip recession. Without growth, we can't reduce the deficit. Something you tory mopheads can't get your heads around it seems.

 

There's no debate because you cant see the mess the US has gotten itself into, therefore you wont acknowledge the spending cuts were needed. You're wrong and you clearly cant see it. "unsustainable public sector", "deficit" - the clues couldn't slap you in the face any harder.

 

Why do people think public sector spending will increase growth? Are you saying a double dip could be avoided by sustaining an unsustainable public sector? ~madness personified. Growth through tax breaks to SME make much more sense than hiring 10 people to do 1 persons job.

 

 

fyi, S&P downgraded the US because they increased their self imposed credit limit. Which makes sense. More credit = more risk. Justify it all you want, but 16 trillion beggars belief.

 

As it happen there was a canny interesting article in the Times today about utterly laughable the credit agencies are considered to be now by the markets, but of course pandering to them is in the tories interests.

 

Most of what you've written is just strawman anyway. No one has said that spending shouldn't be curbed, the question was to what extent and how it should be balanced with increased taxation. So far the government plans are simply not working, that much is pretty much a fact. They've blamed it on cold weather, hot weather, Japanese earthquakes, royal weddings, and no doubt will soon add the riots to the list. Yet our growth is pathetic even compared to the struggling eurozone. The problem is though that the government is dogmatic to the extent it would rather harm our economy than take out a plan B (although they've flip flopped on virtually every other issue and the police force will surely be next).

 

Still, apparently everything is going swimmingly and there is no debate to be had..... :lol:

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My sister's on duty tonight, in either Coventry, or Brum. I'm of the opinion that the looters are thick wankers, and poverty etc. is a bad excuse for them being empty headed, violent cunts.

 

The looters are dumb??? Your sister doesn't know where she's on duty ffs!! :icon_lol:

 

EDIT: Punctuation, hips, punctuation!!

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