Noelie 103 Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 I won't be surprised if we don't bring anyone in this window, I think we have strength enough to win promotion if Rafa gets his tinkering correct. The only thing we have to offer at the moment is 'possible' promotion which is not a very big carrot to dangle........and money. With promotion assured it will provide a huge carrot to lure players in during the summer window, and there will be players at end of contracts looking to secure their future careers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LooneyToony 41 Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 I won't be surprised if we don't bring anyone in this window, I think we have strength enough to win promotion if Rafa gets his tinkering correct. The only thing we have to offer at the moment is 'possible' promotion which is not a very big carrot to dangle........and money. With promotion assured it will provide a huge carrot to lure players in during the summer window, and there will be players at end of contracts looking to secure their future careers. That's pretty much it, Noelie. You old so-and-so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 4892 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 If Townsend plays like he did at the back end of last season then he'd almost guarantee promotion and be an asset in the PL. No brainer really. McCarthy is also accomplished in the PL as well so would a prudent signing (although 16m looks a bit steep. I'd think half of that would be fair) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 9008 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 (edited) I think if we'd got past Oxford few would be demanding signings this window. I think there's a thing goes through people's head during a transfer window as when there's a 3 for 2 deal on soft drinks in the supermarket. I think this squad is on course for a c100pts season and will be enough to get us promoted automatically. Every squad can be improved, but if we're being quoted £35m for two Croatian lads under 20, £16m for James McCarthy and £22m for Tom Cairney, if Patrick van Aanholt moved to Palace for £14m and if Jake Livermore is "worth" £10m I'd say this window isn't the one to be buying players. As has been said, it's clearly a seller's market and while we're financially hale and healthy it behoves Rafa and the owner to keep one eye on the recruitment that will be needed in the summer. If we could secure a couple on loan, that'd be perfect, but it seems that selling clubs want permanent deals, understandably so. Playing well for a Championship club for 4 months isn't going to increase a departing player's value by much, and for senior players like McCarthy and Townsend those 4 months are 4 months off what is surely their last contract with their club. If they're getting £50k a week, will playing for Newcastle in the championship raise their selling value by £800k? I doubt it. Edited January 30, 2017 by The Fish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 26441 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 we're financially hale and healthy it behoves Rafa and the owner Behave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 9008 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Behave. Shan't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerbarton 24 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Looks like we've put the Mbemba <> Townsend reciprocal loans on the table. Would be happy with that if it went through - we'll be in a better position to decide on permanent transfers in the summer. Are we happy with the centre back cover though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 13877 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Shut up fish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 4892 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 (edited) Looks like we've put the Mbemba <> Townsend reciprocal loans on the table. Would be happy with that if it went through - we'll be in a better position to decide on permanent transfers in the summer. Are we happy with the centre back cover though? I really rate Mbemba but if he has fallen out with Rafa then a loan is a good deal. I know Hayden can play there but not sure if he'd be good backup after Hanley. Edited January 30, 2017 by Holden McGroin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 4964 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 I'm also surprised by the Mbemba news but hey, we probably could use Townsend more than him, so I guess it makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essembeeofsunderland 811 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 I really rate Mbemba but if he has fallen out with Rafa then a loan is a good deal. I know Hayden can play there but not sure if he'd be good backup after Hanley. Mbemba was both shit as central defender and fullback.Weak as piss in the air and in the tackle and forever out of position.With Boumsong,the worst central defenders I've seen at SJP.Far worse than John Bird and Dick Barton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 4892 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Mbemba was both shit as central defender and fullback.Weak as piss in the air and in the tackle and forever out of position.With Boumsong,the worst central defenders I've seen at SJP.Far worse than John Bird and Dick Barton. How old are you out of interest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1117 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Mental or physical age? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 4892 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Well, im pitching his mental age around 15 but curious now as he has apparently seen players from the 1970s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 30450 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Generous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoneColdStephenIreland 74 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Rumours that Wolves are after Hanley now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12461 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 No point selling him tbh. We have even less reason to sell him if we are considering the Townsend Mbemba swap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/tim-krul-told-can-leave-12526539 Looks like Krul's in limbo Shirley he's better than either Elliot or Darlow (Sels doesn't count) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1117 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 His form prior to his injury certainly wasn't better than Darlow's has been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 16726 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Darlow is a better keeper IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 I always thought Krul was a canny keeper seems like he's gone from "World Cup Penalty Hero" to zero in less than 18 months Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1117 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 I always liked him but his form in the last or so (in which he played) was way down on what it had been in the past imo. That may well have been due to the absolute cluster fuck of defence that was in front of him because they would have certainly dented his confidence. But Darlow has barely put a foot wrong since he came into the team properly and I think he's looked the best keeper I've ever seen us have in coming for balls into the box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 I still can't help feeling for Krul like you say he had a shit bag of a defence to work with (not his fault) then his injury (not his fault) he's had 6 months at Ajax without an apearance (not his fault) & now again through no fault of his own he's frozen out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoneColdStephenIreland 74 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Elliott and Darlow both had the same defence that Krul had infront of him last season anf they were far better in the games they had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 5937 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Elliott and Darlow both had the same defence that Krul had infront of him last season anf they were far better in the games they had. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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